A8-6600k vs A10-5800k

This will not be used for the graphics power.  This for a mini itx build.  My friend needs like a AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition but ther are no good micro atx am3+ boards.  Which is better?  I can't seem to find any real cpu benchmarks on them.

The only real selling point of the APUs is their improved onboard graphics. As a CPU, they kinda suck. Do you have a budget? Might be easier to configure a build for you, or give some advice.

Just give as many details as you can. System use/budget.

AMD don't do many sockets for ITX, I think it is because of the power requirements of the chip. If you really need an ITX build, you should go Intel.

Otherwise, a small mATX build, with a portable case, could be a good compromise?

We could either go with an i3 or this.  People are always recomending the Phenom IIX 4 965 Black processor but if u look at cpu benchmarks the A10-5800k is actually better.  He is going with a HD7790 or 7850 if some how he coughs up the money.

Benchmarks:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/A10-6800K/1.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61510-amd-richland-review-a10-6800k-a10-6700-benchmarked.html

New apu's are pretty darn good especially with low end gaming. As you can see though, their number crunching power is poor in non optimized cpu/gpu apps. I would personally go with a ivy/haswell for matx,itx. Much better range of boards - rog, msi etc.

For a cheap gaming ITX build, the i3 and 7790 would be fine. That's it in a nutshell. The 7790 and i3 will outperform the APUs, and allow for some upgrade paths.

I still think it would be wise to leave a budget here, and state the system use/expectations of the system. I or someone will get back to you with a system. Or let me take a look at the parts you've selected. PSU et cetera. Even if it is just for a second opinion.

Here is what we are thinking.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/13HWd

aiming for about 600 bucls