X99 dilemma - do I need HEDT

soo I’m sorry for not mentioning that i have -for the time being- spare 2x8gb ddr4, and when it will most likely become needed I’ll find some decommissioned ecc reg ddr4

I’m more and more leaning towards ryzen build, as the diffrence in power usage seems to be huge, and the slightly cheaper hardware won’t make big enough saving to justify it

so, it’s safe to say that I’m back to square one

I have those aforementioned 16gb of ddr4, and radeon hd5770 for display output (maybe for pcie-passtrough if I don’t get anything more efficient), some ssd’s and hdd’s in stash for the start, the case is also not a concern
right now I think about getting x370-pro and ryzen 5 1600 AF
the final configuration should use around 550-600W (cpu and both gpu’s will be undervolted, i won’t need speed, and any ryzen will be upgrade on my current set-up), and think about 700-800W PSU
How big difference irl does higher 80+ certificate do?
And also what is your take on used PSU’s?
Every suggestion is welcome :smiley:

Keep in mind that those two don’t go together. Ryzen is fine with ECC UDIMMs but can’t handle registered memory.

It does save a little bit of energy. More importantly PSUs that are platinum rated simply have higher quality stuff inside. I always go for quality on PSU and cooling, mainly because I know I can use those parts in any system in the future.

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good thing I made that mistake on forum, not when buying that :sweat_smile:
thank you ^^

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Then my next question: Is this small difference worth 35$ when you are stretching your budget already?

In the short term? No. That is if we are strictly talking powerbill vs initial investment. In the long run it will even out eventually but we are talking looong run at that point.

The problem is that I can’t tell you what to value. I think a higher quality of components is worth it in a PSU because if one of those goes boom it can take everything out. I also think a nice long warranty period from a well known company adds value. But it is subjective.

You decide. :wink:

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Man, where are those deals for brand-new oem 80+ platinum delta’s when you need them :confused:

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If you looking for ex mining power supplies, there’s usually 1200w HP units on ebay for dirt cheap

Not sure why you would actually need a 80+ platinum psu for?
A gold one is fine as well.

Those 80+ ratings generally don´t really tell me that much,
other then how efficient a said psu is at a certain power load…
It does not mean that a platinum psu is better or live longer perse.

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I don’t need one

I’m thinking about getting one if those 35-45 bucks more are worth it, and I’m just seeking advice, because for all of my lower-mid range pc’s I always used corsair’s cx600s
and I simply lack experience

Yeah well the Corsair CX units are generally not the best units out there.
But yeah some people never had any issues with them.
So yeah in terms of long livity, it’s mainly a matter of luck.

But yeah i mean platimum psu’s are significantly more expensive,
then similar wattage gold psu´s for example.
And it is really kinda depending on your systems total powerdraw,
if that price difference is really going to be justifyable or not.
Because like i said, those 80+ classifications, only tell me,
how efficient a said psu is at a ““certain power load””.

Those classifications really don’t tell that much.
Only that a gold psu will draw a little bit more power from the wall,
then a platinum psu with the same wattage, at a certain powerload.

I know, and I really don’t want to stress my luck this time

psu calculator says around 600 Watts, and I have no idea how accurate this will be

sadly for easily confused people like me :confused:

What are you looking at to build.
Like which cpu, + motherboard and gpu are you looking at,
and what kind of cooling?

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oh, right, I should probably start editing first post with current thoughts

right now?
asus x370-pro + ryzen 1600 af with 2x8gb (will upgrade down the line to 32gb ecc) with air cooling
2x rx 470 (or maybe rx 470 with some radeon wx 3100/3200/4100 as host gpu)
raid5 configuration (zfs raidz to be exact)
2-3 ssd (boot drive, some vm’s and ssd cache)
most additional wifi card / ethernet card
couple fans (idk, 4?)

most of the time it will be server/nas, but there is a chance of me making some stupid cable management decision’s in my room and connecting it to tv and make htpc out of it (after all kde connect makes quite nice remote from mobile phone)

knowing me I’ll forget somthing, or mess up something, and this will expand

Yeah about 600W ish TPD sounds plausible for a setup like that,
when optimally used with both gpu´s.
So something like a decent 850W unit would be more then fine,
for a setup like that.
You will even have headroom if you ever consider upgrading,
the cpu to like an 8 core for example.

I personally prefer to have a little bit of over headroom,
on the psu side of things.
Because it will generally run the psu cooler and there for more silent.
Something like a Seasonic 850W Gold unit would be more then fine.
You could of course consider a more expensive Platinum unit,
but honnestly i personally don’t really see many reasons for that,
when it comes to a home system.

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THIS is what I’ve needed
So I’m considering Riotoro Enigma G2 850W (which is told to be rebadged Seasonic Focus Plus Gold), because it would allow me to save a bit and it still have a 10 yr warranty

8 core may come, one day, when cheap used ryzens will start to emerge

thank you and sorry for being indecisive :sweat_smile:

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I never really have heard from that particular brand.
But if it has a Seasonic board inside then it’s probablly a fine unit.
I mean 10 year warrenty sounds pretty good.

… until the company goes out of business. :stuck_out_tongue:
Turns out ten years is a pretty long time. :wink:

My Ryzen 7 1700 rig runs OC’d to 3.8GHz all core and has a Fury Nitro for a GPU. That thing is powered by a Silverstone Nightjar 520, a passive (!) rebranded Seasonic.

Don’t get me wrong, I like overbuilding as much as anyone here. But instead of getting higher wattage from a less known brand, I would go with a more adequate but higher quality part with the warranty of a trustworthy company behind it.

But again, subjective. What is more important, the higher wattage or a solid warranty.

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Of course i agree that a A brand psu would also be my personal preference.
I could look out if i can figure out which board there is used inside that particular psu.

A bit of research at several sites on which one source is kit guru.

The Riotoro Enigma G2 850W 80+ Gold is indeed a Seasonic oem re-branded psu.
It comes with decent Japanese capacitors and indeed a 10 year warranty.
The fan inside is the same as in the Seasonic Focus Gold series.
So as far as i’m concerned i don’t see anything wrong with it.

According to ¨kitguru¨ it’s excellent.

The said unit is around €103 euro up here, which is really interesting i have to say.

I brought this psu up because i can get it (brand new) for like 80$ and it seems like a very good value

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