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X570 Non-MSI boards?

I am buying an X570 motherboard. That is a fact. The only question is, Which non-MSI motherboard am I buying?

Is the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master still a good option? Is there anything worth it from ASUS or ASROCK? I dont want to spend more than $350 on a board. The more M.2 the better.

Aorus seems to be making decent AM4 boards in general, but that doesn’t say much. It is hard to give good advice without more info, main purpose for X570? Are you looking for great VRMs for overclocking, or is it for SLI? Have you considered an m.2 drive bay PCIe extension card? Need to super-clock RAM?

Asus Crosshair VIII Impact is one of the best In that price range, if you can manage with 1 PCIe and two m.2 slots.

I am buying a Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 Desktop CPU. I want this board to last a while. I aim to do a PCIe passthrough build with it. Each OS on a different NVMe or SATA SSD. Star Citizen is on its own NVMe SSD right now using a PCIe NVMe expansion card on my Z87 mobo. My current system has been struggling as of late. the board has 2 dead DIMM slots and I recently had to recover the BIOS through some trickery. The board is about 10 years old at this point.

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The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master is pretty much the best board,
you could from the $300 to $350,- price range.
It offers the best feature set and has a great vrm.

On the Asus side of things the only board that is kinda appealing to me.
Asus X570-E Strix: Good amount of usb connectivity, dual lan and a good vrm.

However i would still pick the Aorus Master over any Asus board any day of the week.

Asrock basically has the X570 Taichi which is not a bad board for the money either.
But yeah it’s a bit lack luster on connectivity features if you ask me.
It has a decent vrm, but not really spectacular at that price point.
Again the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master is the better board.
But of course that aint really a fair comparison.

I personally really like the Asrock X570 Creator.
Because that board comes with TB3 and 10G Aquantia nic.
However that board is pretty expensive,
it costs more then i think is reasonable to spend on a main stream board.
and according to wendell´s review it doesn’t seem to have the most ideal iommu groupings.
So that is likely a no go.

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So yeah long story short…

My recommendation goes to the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master.
In my opinion it does not really make much sense to spend,
more then $400,- on a main stream motherboard really.

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I get it yesterday, runs perfect with 64GB of Crucial Ballistix and 2 VGAs.
I had to RMA an MSI X570 Unify, cause it had issues with the channel B of RAM.

I was an Asus user for decades - back from SlotA Athlon days. Recently I’ve moved over to Gigabyte - the BIOS layout is a carcrash compared to Asus, but everything else is just better.

im used to Gigabyte BIOS layout. Been running a Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H since 2011

on Destination Linux Telegram Group, Ive been recommended the Aorus Elite instead of the Master. They said roughly the same features but for less. Thoughts?

Well the Elite is not a bad board either.
However it is really a step down from the master.
Not only the vrm is a downgrade, but also the connectivity features and a lesser layer pcb.
And the Elite pretty much has no trouble shooting features either.
So unless you could life with the base features the Elite has to offer?
Then the Elite would also not be a bad board.

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You could of course compare the features on both boards,
and see if the Master has extra features that are usefull to you.
The lesser layer pcb could impact memory overclocking performance somewhat.
But i suppose with the goal of the build, memory overclocking would not really a thing.
The vrm on the Elite is basically still decent.
But the Master has a better vrm, with better powerstages.

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master vrm info:

  • pwm: Infineon XDPE132G5C in 12 +2 phase mode.
    12 direct phases for Vcore and 2 for Soc.
  • powerstages: 50A IR3556.

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite vrm info:

  • pwm: ISL69138 in 6+1 phase mode, doubled to 12+2 using ISL6617 doublers.
  • Powerstages: Vishay Sic639 Drmos 50A parts.

Those Sic639´s are a bit less efficient then the IR3556´s.
There for with a highend cpu like a 3900X / 3950X,
the vrm on the Elite board will run a bit hotter then the Master.
But basically still more then fine. :slight_smile:

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if it wasnt so damn expensive, id get the Aorus Extreme with the true 16 phase vrm and passive cooling

Yeah well that board is not worth it.
I mean for a mainstream platform like Ryzen or intel Kabylake,
it makes really no sense to spend more then $400,- on a board really.
Simply because the platform it self just lacks pci-e lane bandwith to begin with.

id go x399 but for the cost of the cpu

someone recommended this:

Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra. How’s it stack up to the Master? nvr mind.
the Master shows why its the Master.

The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra is a bit of a pointless board if you ask me.
It pretty much has the same feature set of the cheaper X570 Aorus Pro Wifi i believe,
but with some better vrm heatsinks.

So i would say forget about the Ultra. :slight_smile:

I know the Master is expensive, but at the $350,- price range,
it is pretty much the best package.

The Msi X570 MEG Ace is at the same price point,
but the rear io is pretty lack luster for a board that price.
The X570 MEG Unify is actually exact the same board,
but only with a realtek lan instead of an intel nic on the ACE.
There for the Unify is significantly cheaper.
But still realtek lan on a $300,- board is kinda meh…

Then another board which can be found roughtly around the same price area as the Master,
is the Asrock X570 Phantom Gaming X.
However that board is also not worth it’s price premium over the X570 Taichi.
Because those boards are pretty much the same thing.
Only with the X570 Phantom Gaming X you pay extra for the additional 2.5 Realtek nic.
But other then that they are the same.
So yeah again a pointless board just like the MEG ACE from Msi.

So yeah the Master still has the best package at the $300,- to $350,- price range.

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im not overly concerned about the price though I do look to find that sweet deal. I have already spent ~$400 on just the base of the joystick for my flight sim setup. Virpil Flight controls are NOT cheap. You buy the Base and then the grip to make a Joystick. The Throttle is another ~350. The pedals ~$400.

I just wanted to be sure before I spent the coin.