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#21

Are the prices for X399 fluctuating at all? Any predictions before Christmas? This board looks amazing. I need to verify it’ll fit in my project system, but if it does I may get this board.


#22

It’s normal ATX size.


#23

I really like the design of the Gigabyte X399 Designare EX board allot.
I would have liked to see IR3555 60A powerstages instead of the IR3556 50A stages.
Because those are a littlebit better,
however Gigabyte is using those IR3556 stages on allot of their highend boards.
They are still pretty decent powerstages though its still plenty enough.
The memory vrm is really nice.


#24

They are. They look so good…
If they had mainstream boards I would have thrown away my Asrock board and gotten this one. It looks amazing…


#25

But on the consumer side its hard to beat ASRock, every single board i had to work with from them has been a pleasant experience, down to most simple H61 models, they seem to balance features and price pretty well, its not hard to find an ASRock board as the most cost effective option.
And Gigabyte boards, the only experience i’ve ever had with them is was my Z77P-D3 from Aliexpress and from what i’ve seen, damn, it is a good board, its pretty used and yellowed but everything works like its new…


#26

If anyone in the DC metro are is looking for a 1950x threadripper … MicroCenter Fairfax has 7 left for $699.99 (Us dollar). The only caveat is you have to pickup in person with ID after reserving on-line or buy in store. Good deal though.


#27

The microcenter near me has the same deal. It’s an hour drive to that store, two round trip. I’m trying to justify dropping $700 on a processor right now. Especially since I don’t have the other components yet. I don’t foresee being able to get DDR4 memory for at least a couple months yet.

But it’s such a good deal. That’s $200 less than Amazon, and $300 less than MSRP.


#28

Yeah I had to do it. You are right about the memory though. Prices are on a steady upward trend. I will have to hit up @wendell for a high quality 32G 3200+ kit. I think he used TridentZ. I have the Gigabyte Designaire on order. Anybody selling a Vega 56 for not insane money? Anyone?


#29

I’m probably going to hold off. I think I have other things to do with that money. And having a $700 processor sitting around for months would bother me a lot.

We’ll see what things look like in a couple months.


#30

@wendell Can you tell us the IOMMU groups with the latest F10 BIOS?


#31

@wendell Second this request, would really like to buy Designare over Taichi if it will work for me.


#32

$ ./ls-iommu.sh
IOMMU Group 0 00:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0 [1022:1460]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1 [1022:1461]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2 [1022:1462]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3 [1022:1463]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4 [1022:1464]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5 [1022:1465]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric Device 18h Function 6 [1022:1466]
IOMMU Group 10 00:18.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7 [1022:1467]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 0 [1022:1460]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.1 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 1 [1022:1461]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.2 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 2 [1022:1462]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.3 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 3 [1022:1463]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.4 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 4 [1022:1464]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.5 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 5 [1022:1465]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.6 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric Device 18h Function 6 [1022:1466]
IOMMU Group 11 00:19.7 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Data Fabric: Device 18h; Function 7 [1022:1467]
IOMMU Group 12 01:00.0 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43ba] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 01:00.1 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b6] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 01:00.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:43b1] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 02:00.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 02:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 02:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 02:03.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 02:04.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] 300 Series Chipset PCIe Port [1022:43b4] (rev 02)
IOMMU Group 12 04:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539] (rev 03)
IOMMU Group 12 05:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 8265 / 8275 [8086:24fd] (rev 78)
IOMMU Group 12 06:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation I211 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1539] (rev 03)
IOMMU Group 13 08:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:145a]
IOMMU Group 14 08:00.2 Encryption controller [1080]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Platform Security Processor [1022:1456]
IOMMU Group 15 08:00.3 USB controller [0c03]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) USB 3.0 Host Controller [1022:145c]
IOMMU Group 16 09:00.0 Non-Essential Instrumentation [1300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:1455]
IOMMU Group 17 09:00.2 SATA controller [0106]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1022:7901] (rev 51)
IOMMU Group 18 09:00.3 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) HD Audio Controller [1022:1457]
IOMMU Group 1 00:01.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe GPP Bridge [1022:1453]
IOMMU Group 2 00:02.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 3 00:03.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 4 00:04.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 5 00:07.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 6 00:07.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 7 00:08.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
IOMMU Group 8 00:08.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Internal PCIe GPP Bridge 0 to Bus B [1022:1454]
IOMMU Group 9 00:14.0 SMBus [0c05]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller [1022:790b] (rev 59)
IOMMU Group 9 00:14.3 ISA bridge [0601]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge [1022:790e] (rev 51)

not a lot of peripherals in here – but its basically the same story. If anything there is a slight improvement because, I think, some of the x4 NVMe slots are no longer grouped in the x16 slots.

I need to try the 4x x4 card and see if that also splits iommu groups when an x16 slot becomes an x4 slot.

The SEV/KVM agesa bug right now is really raining on my parade though. I’ve patched my kernel and kvm is working ok for me but jeeze louise

edit: know what’s weird? The nvme and the primary graphics are not showing up. I think they run through the other die. So that’s… interesting…


#33

@wendell: Anandtech writes

However, the lack of additional power connectors will likely limit the motherboard’s overclocking capabilities, especially when multiple GPUs are installed. We find it quite unlikely that the motherboard will be able to handle the power requirements for three or four high-end graphics cards if the user tries to overclock all of them at once.

does that complaint make sense to you? I see a few boards with a dual 8pin CPU power connector, but (next to?) none with a power connector for the PCIe slots.


#34

I know this thread is a little dated (nearly a year) but I was wondering what your take on the ASUS X399 PRIME - A might be and whether it would be compliant with TB3.


#35

Review coming soon. No tb3 support but I’ll double check


#36

Is the SEV/KVM bug still a thing with the latest linux kernel (e.g. 4.19.6)? Have been holding off upgrading until it’s resolved.


#37

Thanks. I think I’ll be looking into a main board from another mother anyway. This could mark the end of a long term relationship with ASUS and Intel but everything is so unpredictable right now. I just want a work station that actually works.