Workstation/gaming rig build- need help

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Hey Everyone,

It's time for my upgrade/rebuild of my current system and money is tight now so I need some advice.

current system:

Windows 10 pro 64-bit
Custom loop water cooling. xcpc 5.25 bay pump/res and a 240 rad
i7-3820k clocked at 4.6ghz
ASUS sabertooth x79 - has many bad usb ports as of now
EVGA GTX770 SC - stock and having issues
16Gb Corsair 1866Mhz ram
New Corsair RX750 power supply.
OCZ Revodrive PCI-e SSD ( this thing sucks big time: ie.. 200Mb/s transfers)
and various decade old HDDs. (ie: some WD velociraptor 500 gb HDDs and some even older HDDs)

Planned system

custom loop water cooling
i7-6800k probably only OC'd to 4Ghz
Asrock x99 taichi - iffy on this choice.
32Gb corsair vengence 2133 ram the c13 kit
Samsung 950pro m.2
and a few Samsung 850 EVO SSDs one for work and one for games.
GTX1070 of some kind
keep my existing PSU

Also, will be ditching my 21:9 displays for a 4k HDR display. I need that resolution bump and better color reproduction. and 4k gaming with no AA would be nice. Though I'll prob game at 1440p to gain or keep a 60+ fps.

So, I already picked up a Fractal Define S case, a 4Tb HGST HDD for 99 bucks for my mass storage, a EKWB D5 res and pump combo, and a EK coolstream se 360 rad, but i might exchange for a 140 variant for top mounting in the case.
note: I will be using soft tubing because the only time i look inside the case is when i clean it.

I am looking to get more performance ASAP. I do a lot of Adobe suite work and work in Rhino, Solidworks, and Alias. Most of which currently has been Alias and Photoshop work. Gaming wise it's mostly WOW, LOL, Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Shadow of Mordor, Skyrim with mods, ESO, but no current AAA titles. Possibly looking at GTA V and Rise of the Tomb Raider and whatever the next Assassin's creed game comes out.

So my questions for anyone with knowledge of the software or hardware,
1- are there any issues with the planned config? I'm unsure about the reliability of that Asrock Mobo.
2- Is the RX480 enough ( with possibly a second rx when I can get one) or should I stick to getting a 1070?
3- any general hardware suggestions?

With the Intel 600p SSD's around the corner and Zen in 2017... should I bother with the Samsung SSD's and getting the 6800k?

I will be getting parts when I can so I'm not in any rush, though storage and GPU are the first upgrades on my priority list before moving to the new cpu/mobo.

Thanks for the help in advance

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With anything. if you can wait, wait if not, jump on it. The system you are looking at building is a monster but you may save your self some money if you wait for zen.

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I am waiting for Zen with my upgrade.
The RX480 is enough.

Suggestions?
-Seasonic PSU are generally good
-Arctic has some nice CPU coolers a normal beeing can afford
-Raid setups are good to have

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Thanks for the reply,

I've had bad luck with Raid setups and I'd rather stay away from the headache. Plus I have a NAS and offsite backup location set so I don't have to worry about redundancy.

Is there a problem with my current PSU? It's only about 6 months old, if that. I've been a Corsair PSU fanboy, but if there is an issue with the RX line I'll switch.

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I def don't mind waiting, but my rig is killing me. My latest render took an hour to complete, which wastes so much time. Zen CPU's now with the "hyperthreading" type cores is really compelling. Thought the last time I had an AMD rig was in the late 90's when it replaced a 400Mhz single core Intel based computer.

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Missed that. There is no problem that I am aware of. I just fell in love with Seasonic PSUs.

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I think that's the oppisite of tight, and buying over time is potentially a bad idea

otherwise, solid build GPU is probably overkill, and the SSDs are overkill

what resolution are you gaming at? The 480 is enough for 1080p and has 8gbs of VRAM for workstation tasks, you'd also need to know how much your applications utilize GPU acceleration. I think solidworks tends to love AMD GPUs depending on what you're doing, photoshop doesn't matter, not sure on the other stuff

1060 is generally 10fps faster in DX11, but I'd probably just stick to the 480 for the long run with DX12/Vulkan

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As far as Zen goes, we don't know enough about it yet, although it should end up being close to intel's performance, just at a lower price

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Pretty sure seasonic is their OEM for most of the good ones, only real bad corsair ones are the CX/Builder stuff

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Oh gotcha.. Ill check them out when I do a HTPC for my sister.

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well i will be buying the ssds together and the gpu pretty soon. but the mobo/cpu/ram all will be bought at once.

I will be working in 4k and if I can gaming at 4k. I think the 480 should be able to handle the skyrim/league/wow and the like in 4k. the rest will be gamed at 1440p. I don't tend to use AA.

Solidworks, Rhino, Alias Autostudio all have been murder on my gtx770 and it's 2gb of vram. so anything with more vram would give me better performance. I think the 480 would be enough for the work side of things, but I can't find much info on the 480's support for 10-bit and 12-bit color.

I'm getting new ssds to replace my current ssd's and hdd's because I work with mostly somewhat large files in the 2-4Gb range.

I'm going to use either a Samsung 950pro or the announced intel 600p ssd for my boot device and have all my programs on it. Anyone know what kind of difference I'd see real world going with a 600p over the 950pro? reads are close enough but writes are way slower on the 600p.

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I'd suggest you get like 1TB of like normal SSD rather than super fast NVME with half the capacity, you probably don't really need the super fast SSD lol, like hard drive to SSD is fast, going from already fast to slightly faster is generally Eh.

Unless you were going to be editing 4k footage or something

10-bit info, or lack there of, answer seems to be it "should" support it
https://community.amd.com/thread/202336

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4tkgj3/rx480_10bit_opengl_dx_acceleration/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4hoymi/so_will_amd_enable_10_bit_color_output_for_radeon/

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The pricing I've seen for the intel 600p drives seems just a few buck over what a standard Samsung 850 evo.. the 850 evo being around 160 and the 600p nvme being 180 to 190 for the same size. That pricing is just too close to get a standard sata ssd. But your right, I probably don't need the nvme drives. with my current ssds running in the 200-300 range depending on the use. I'd see a difference just moving to the performance of a 850 evo or like performance ssd.

I did some research on the 10-bit support. It looks like both AMD and Nvidia support 10-bit and 12-bit color through Directx , but if openCL or openGL are being used the color setting revert to 8-bit. I'd need a quadro or firepro card to run 10/12-bit color full time. Besides games, I'm not sure what other programs use directx. i don't think windows 10 will run natively in 10-bit color.