Hello I am currently thinking about creating a free internet connection system based upon dial up
basically my software will convert a website into binary then use different tones for 0 or 1 and send it to and from the server using mobile phones to acts as a dial up modem I'm going to make this free so anyone call "dial in" and access the internet anywhere in the world for free using a pc with a phone that accepts a 4 pole connector (the 3.5mm connector used to combine headsets and microphones into one) at the moment this is all theoretical but I'm going to test it out later this year so anyone with a good mobile plan or using a prepaid sim can have free internet access. its not the fastest but it should be fine for stuff like irc and casual web browsing such as looking at this fourm
yeah but it would use your minutes instead of data and lots of company's offer unlimited minutes for really cheap unfortunately we cant get 100% free connection in remote places yet .
one of my other ideas was to get a dedicated 10gbs network connection and repeat it long range using mesh networks with a raspberry pi and long range antennas
in the end the back bone to connect the end user to the server they are requesting costs money and some one will have to pay for it, all you are really doing is decreasing the last mile costs of the isp which comes at the cost of speed or reliability for those on the network.
Tho i would narrow your free internet idea for everyone down to private tech syndicate internet. Giving everyone free internet always sadly end up in big abuse. Unless your Google and you got the money and the firepower to fight of enemy lawyers.
That does not really bring the cost down or make it free, the systems will still need maintenance and cost money to set up and you still have to deal with the costs of getting access to the back bone of the internet along with maintaining your own routing servers for however many people you want to run on this system.
When i talk about last mile costs you need to remember that the last mile costs are inexpensive and not what your internet fees cover, your fees mostly cover the cost to use the back bone and routing servers that get your page request where it needs to go. (Along with the heafty profit that ISP make)
While it's not a bad idea to use wide-range wifi, you need a bloody-powerful antenna to broadcast a signal that would punch through trees/atmosphere/cities. Then you have to configure channels on that network. Then you have to create the server that is going to support and serve all of those devices, which could range from tens of thousands to tens of millions.
For 24/7 operation, solar will not cut it. Nor will wind. Renewable energies are totally unreliable for constant power.
Mesh networks are the way to go. You could have every home router work as a repeater for a massive wide area network network with powerful PFSense routers at dedicated homes with tech-savvy members as their overseers to communicate to the network and route traffic every which way. The combined bandwidth would easily be able to serve all those people at once if you split it up well enough. And parallelizing the maintenance and power delivery to thousands of homes would make it a lot easier. Everyone would share their bandwidth and it would be divvied up evenly. It might be considered unfair to the people who paid for the higher-tier services, but it would at least raise people with shitty speeds to higher levels, and it would all depend on overall usage. When people go on holiday, everyone back home gets absurdly high speeds. For people who need robust, fast internet (like my dad for instance, who works from home), it wouldn't be a good solution, and for anything more than local network gaming, it wouldn't be good for latencies, but for just a decent affordable internet connection it would be amazing.
There are some niggles with the idea, but honestly, as far as the ranges on these routers go, I don't see why a huge mesh network wouldn't work. Probably the only obstacle is lobbying and arbitrary rulemaking by the ISPs.
Technically, 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands are unlicensed bands, so it's entirely up to the end user to dictate what to do with them. It could be a good idea.
I've been thinking about how applicable this sort of thing could be to shortwave radio, I wonder if you could get a long-range internet connection with shortwave, since it bounces off of the ionosphere. You used to be able to get BBC world news from a tiny radio even in America.
It's a good idea. But relies on back end infrastructure that is still not free in the sense of you do not control the transmission mechanism.
One of the ideas I had though of doing (it's been done before it's not a new thing) is a local internet based off of radio.
Stations could be set up as local servers for the area and you could set up a mesh radio network. Requires no infrastructure from 3rd parties you have complete control.
yeah I know also I've seen the ip over radio concept before but never heard of anyone using it
maybe I could get some people in my local area to help pay for a 10 gigabyte connection then I could broadcast that across the town but my main concept is to have a off the grid style system that using public wifi solar and a battery pack up using something like a raspberry pi and some long range wifi attena's
I was thinking of using a raspberry pi with a 120ah car battery and solar panel to charge it but at the moment its just an experiment and it could be pretty good for security as it acts sort of like a vpn because you can call it from anywhere in the world to access it
There are some niggles with the idea, but honestly, as far as the ranges on these routers go, I don't see why a huge mesh network wouldn't work. Probably the only obstacle is lobbying and arbitrary rulemaking by the ISPs.
Most major cities have mesh nets, pretty cool community.
I live in Bumblefuck, New Hampshire... people here have neither the competence nor the will to actually do something like this... Even though everyone would benefit from it because Comcast rules over everyone here, and Comcast is pure evil.
Our only alternative is Faripoint, and they advertise High Speed Internet for $16.99 a month for 4 years...
It's for a 1.5mbps internet connection.
We need mesh networks absolutely everywhere, right now. Just have everyone share everything unless they absolutely need it, in which case they don't have to join the mesh.
I think this is gonna be a lot slower than you think. If you want any kind of speed you're gonna have to put the data into an IQ constellation but then you hit the massive wall that is the lossy voice compression used on mobile phones.
for tones...
You will be limited to frequencies close to the human voice since mobile phones/networks filter down to that limited range.
Mobile phones compress the living daylight out of voice transmissions which REALLY limits your theoretical limit on throughput.
Lets say you use 1500hz for 0 and 2000hz for 1. The shortest pulse you'll be able to tx/rx will be 1/f or about 0.002 times a second with a duty cycle less than 100%. That means that you could tx/rx 1000bps. Now, lets give a healthy 40% overhead for parity/error checking and you get 600bps = 75Bps = 0.000075MB/s. With this "speed" I don't think you'll even be able to resolve a url in less than a few hours.