Windows slapping Steam?

FaunCB · July 28, 2016, 8:41pm

I know this is old hat, but its coming around again.

CrossCarbon · July 28, 2016, 8:54pm

Migrate to Linux and be done with M$?
If only Valve could make some "win32 on Ubuntu" software.... That would make Ubuntu user numbers blast through the roof!

FaunCB · July 28, 2016, 8:55pm

Fuck ubuntu, that is all.

gameg33k · July 28, 2016, 8:55pm

Please refer to this post I made yesterday about this topic:

Windows 10 / Xbox / DX12 Ecosystem for gaming attempting to screw over STEAM PC Games

In recent musings and discussions around the web and also Paul and Kyles live show last night on Awesomesauce/Pauls Hardware etc... They briefly discussed how there was covert plans from microsoft to start adding bloatware in the background which specifically affects how STEAM works on the Windows OS. This could be a secret but somewhat blatent attempt by Microsoft to work against the goal that STEAM has which is to create a more competitive environment for gamers by offering more and more games via Linux. No doubt STEAM has also been rewarded for their initiative over the years thanks to new API's such as Vulkan that are adding further feasibility to the idea of Linux gaming so how does this appear as a threat to M$? Well Microsoft thanks to DirectX had a monopoly on gaming for a long time, this has increased further now with their DX12 release however as much as they would like to boast about DX12 the dependency DX12 has is that its tied to Windows 10 which by all means is not a great OS. DX12 would have been more appealing had they offered a package based download of it available for previous windows versions such as Windows 7 for example which in my personal opinion was probably Microsoft's best windows. More importantly however and as per latest E3 announcements M$ has a much greater strategy in mind for Windows Gamers, and that is tied to their new Ecosystem where the M$ webstore, the M$ Cloud, Xbox, and Windows 10 are all enabled to share content, media and games with each other 'which in the case of Xbox games and Windows 10 PC's' is not a bad thing since you buy the game once and can then play it on any M$ device you own, but on the other hand the ecosystem itself raises questions on anti competitive behavior as it seeks to define its value proposition to the gaming audience. M$ knows full well that Sony has not yet got such an ecosystem in place, Sony Playstation uses a version of Linux to drive their hardware and I must admit they have done quite…

gameg33k · July 28, 2016, 8:57pm

that blonde host is hawt ^_^

DrewSaga · July 28, 2016, 8:58pm

Why only Ubuntu, what's wrong with Fedora or OpenSUSE?

CrossCarbon · July 28, 2016, 9:01pm

Nothing! I made a test where I would ask friends of mine to install and use Linux distributions of their choice (I hand them a stack of 6 disks with no words on them). Most of them find Ubuntu to be the nicest to use and Mint the easiest to install...
Plus I am working on migrating to Ubuntu to get out of my bodged Windows7.

DrewSaga · July 28, 2016, 9:03pm

I can only pray that AMD can provide better Linux drivers for the 390, otherwise, I may be forced into using different cards, how is the Linux performance on the RX 480 compared to when the 200's card launched?

Funeralopolis · July 28, 2016, 9:06pm

Is Microsoft merely hastening their own demise with this? It seems to me that the more they do stuff like this the less likely people are to drink their koolaid so to speak.

DrewSaga · July 28, 2016, 9:07pm

Microsoft is in it for control. Keep people trapped so they have no choice but to buy their stuff.

FaunCB · July 28, 2016, 9:09pm

https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/the-amdgpu-info-news-thread/

anon63470048 · July 28, 2016, 11:34pm

Here is the deal for the 390 cards under Linux. Install any (deb/ubuntu)distro with XFCE, I recommend the new Linux Mint 18 XFCE Beta (assuming it works), then installed AMDGPU-PRO driver (it should work on xfce windowmanager), THEN patch the 32/64bit driver for Feral games (I can give you those, just couple .so files).

THEN you will have full OpenGL and Vulkan support and decent performance for 'most games'. However keep in mind kernel 4.6.x+++ have regressions with radeon/amdgpu driver (I think pro is ok). Stay on Kernel 4.6.0 until 4.8 comes out!

In saying all that, its a PAIN IN THE ASS, which is why I have a Zotac 1070 turning up soon (I couldn't wait to magically win the teksyndicate comp, I really don't win those anyway but ya never know).

You know its kinda funny, every now and again I find someone who swears NVIDIA cards are terrible under Linux, yet I have NEVER had a issue except for enabling tear-free type modes which I now know howto do.
Oh also vsync can cause issues with some games resulting in LOW FPS, but that also happened on AMD cards.

Often driver/software support is updated on Ubuntu first, (and sometimes ONLY). Its not easy installing a Ubuntu DEB package on other platforms (it can be done with lots of file hacking).