Why does linux hate me

Operating Systems & Open Source Linux
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As the title says why???

I had kubunto on my lenovo laptop for months no issues went to update it as i habent used my laptop in a few months and bam video drivers crash cant boot in with safe mode or any other option. So i format reinstall ubunto every thing works again than bam same error after running the software updater. Oh and now i have no wifi since the reinstall but i have blutooth

P.s. im using kubunto drivers only no 3rd party drivers

So.i said ithis was an oportunity to try and go back to fedora so i formated and installed fedora and every thing seemed ok then ran the software updater that prompted me there was updates pending and bam i still have video but now im seing flickering in the back loght. So i tried the hack i found to get intel drivers on and that did nothing.oh and still no wifi.
So at this point i think my laptop is dying so i boot back into windows 8.1(yes im dual booting) and every thing works again with no flickering.

So ffs what am i doing wrong. installs go great no issues ever could go months with out issues but the second i update it always break linux on me.

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I know you said it is a lenovo, but what is the model number.

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U530 touch

i got it from best buy if u need more specks ill get them in morning its 12 am and its way past sleepy time lol

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Oh I actually had that laptop myself and my mom still has the u430 touch.

I just booted opensuse off an external hard drive on my moms laptop and everything worked fine.

Would you be opposed to trying out linux mint? They are using a slightly older kernel that I personally find a bit more dependable.

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Don't take it personal, much like linus, linux hates on everyone (a little or alot). But it is beats arguing with MS, that bitch will tell all your secrets to the other mean girls at school.

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lol I wonder what a mac will be :D

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Well if you don't update it at all, yeah, shit breaks. Libs are missing, nothing lines up, ETC.

Fedora is as much a pain in the ass as ubuntu is. Both are twitchy little cucks that aren't quite sure what the hell they're supposed to do. I would recommend doing Manjaro (specifically KDEplasma) and building it to your liking. Just keep it up to date weekly and you're prolly good :D

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What version of Fedora?
Make sure your laptop's firmware is all up to date.

When. You boot press e at the grub menu and add nomodeset to the end of the line starting with Linux then press ctrl+x to boot

If you get any issues with the login press ctrl+F3 to change try or do the same instructions but add single to boot into single user mode.

Check the logs with journalctl -b -p err
And check xorg cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE

If you have internet add | fpaste to the end it will upload the output then you can post the links here.

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FEDORA HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU DESERVE TO BE HATED ON WHY U TRYN TO RUN LINUX N E WAZ IN A WINDOZ WURLD? Seriously though desktop linux is a lost cause. I'm here to help friend :P Sudo blobbity /var/log/whythefuckamIwastingmytimeonthishit?

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The trolling isn't welcome here. If it was windows I'd be asking for the exact same info.

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It could be a certain Xorg update that could have created the issue. You can try linux mint see if this happens again. You can use the update manager and update just the known stable updates, see if this works and then install the non-stable securoty ones. If it happens you can find the update that created it from the log and what kind of update it is and block it. It could be something very specific to the laptop.

Also a good idea is to use a restore program like timeshift. So if you have any issues you can always restore your system.

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Linux doesn't hate you, computer hardware manufacturers hate sharing information so developers can help them make their hardware work on Linux

Ths has been a thing with recent Ubuntu flavours (version 16.04) but should have been resolved - tried version 16.04.1?
If still no wifi on new version, may be worth trying few other distros on live usb to find something with working wifi

On the update issues, I really appreciate the support from the Manjaro forum. When they roll out a new batch of updates, they post an announcement on the forum, The post includes a poll for folks to indicate if they had any issues. Newbies can hold back on updating for a week or two to see if there are any problems, and to find out how to fix it

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I know on Ubuntu and Mint they have an additional drivers menu, that's helped me with the wireless before.

Also I seem to have better luck updating a system via the terminal then the software center. Are you updating or upgrading to the next distro release?

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On the WiFi issue, if its not Intel and its replaceable its cheaper just to buy a new WiFi chip usually.

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I would give manjaro a try, its hardware detection is pretty good and installs drivers automatically if it has them.

it is also a os that gets updates sooner than ubuntu/mint do, but generally they are a bit behind arch (which is what manjaro is based on) as they do some testing before rolling them out.

on my laptop the touchscreen, keyboard lighting, wifi, screen brightness, all worked without me doing anything. only thing i had to do was remove the open source video drivers and install the nvidia ones which was as easy as opening the gui menu and doing a few right clicks.

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What ? :)

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The prissy expensive type that has nothing on the inside

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k so i wiped every thing again reformatted the usb stick with latest Ubuntu and rebut this time i plugged my Ethernet in and did the upgrade during install options and every thing but wifi. but still its iooking which is better than before after curent updates. so now im trying to install the kde desktop which hangs on black screen after login

steps i did were

sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop

but got 2 errors
so i tried installing kde again in unity
got this error

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version (1.338).
You might want to run 'apt-get install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde-telepathy-minimal : Depends: kde-config-telepathy-accounts (>= 15.04.0) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

so i tried the
apt-get -f install

got this.

sudo apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
kde-config-telepathy-accounts
The following NEW packages will be installed:
kde-config-telepathy-accounts
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
709 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/137 kB of archives.
After this operation, 825 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 270339 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking kde-config-telepathy-accounts (4:15.12.3-0ubuntu1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/share/accounts/services/google-im.service', which is also in package account-plugin-google 0.12+16.04.20160126-0ubuntu1
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu3) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

edit wifi just started working out of nowhere

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You can try this:

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You candnf update -x X11* and you should be fine... I have never used the software installer on Fedora. If something breaks, dnf downgrade <pacakage> you should be fine.

Linux does what you tell it to do...