Which is the best in class motherboard for AM5?

Hello,

I’m planning on making a PC build using a lot of new components, including AM5-based cpus and gpus.

I was wondering if I could get some recommendations for the current “best” AM5 motherboard, since there seems to be a lot of differences between them. It’s a bit confusing to keep track of it all.

I was originally set on the X670E Steel Legend before I saw a video where Wendell gave praise to the B50E Aorus Master (and related motherboards), claiming it had some of the best AM5 PCIe layout he’d seen.

Are these Aorus motherboards better than the AsRock boards, in terms of PCIe and bang-for-your-buck? Is there something else that surpasses either of these boards? Please let me know. Thank you.

It mainly depends on your budget and use case.

So what is your build for and how much are you willing to pay for this new endeavor? Do you even overclock you components? Are you gaming? Doing video rendering on the side?

ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI.

But in seriousness, there is no “best” motherboard, you have to specifiy the features you need and then go from there. I personally like to be able to use Thunderbolt/USB 4 which reduces the range of available offerings quite a bit.

I appreciate the response!

I’m not planning on overclocking, but I will be video editing, rendering, and gaming. Possibly some very basic machine learning stuff too, so I’m trying to plan accordingly. My budget would be no more than $500.

One of the things I’m kinda interested in is the ability to run ECC memory, which is why I was originally planning to get the AsRock x670e Steel Legend, since I heard the AsRock boards tend to support ECC…

But I checked out the Asus recommendation below this reply and it seems like it also supports ECC. So I might go with that one, since I think it would give me some extra PCIe x4 slots :smiley:

Thank you for your response!

I hear your solid advice on nothing being technically best, but even so, I checked out your Asus recommendation and it actually looks really good.

I compared it to the two motherboards I mentioned in my OP, and between them all, the Asus one does seem to have a more-preferable PCIe layout (niether of mine had PCIex4, among other details) and neither have USB 4 either like you mentioned. It’s specs said it also technically supported ECC too, which is really cool to me.

I think I actually agree you on that particular asus board, and I’m glad you brought it to my attention. Thank you!

It really depends on your particular use case.
And which kind of features that are important to you.
I have a list of am5 boards that in my opinion are the most interesting ones out there.

But i do have to say as far as Gigabyte concerned,
i am not really impressed with their AM5 lineup like at all.

I appreciate your advice.
I’ll definitely stay away from the Gigabyte board I was looking at then; sounds like they might be a bit headache-causing. Not good. Quality of life is definitely something I’m aiming for too.

Right now I’m really impressed by the “ProArt X670E-CREATOR WIFI” aforementioned in the thread, but for posterity, would you mind sharing which am5 boards you were thinking are most interesting?

Here is my personal favorite list.

X670.

  1. Asrock X670E Taichi.
    Nice board in my opinion a bit pricy.
    But it has a pretty nice feature set.
    And dual pci-e gen 5 slots x16 /x8 and nice onboard audio.
    It also has usb gen4 chip aka sorta kinda TB4 onboard.

  2. Msi MPG X670E Carbon Wifi.
    A nice board with a good feature set.
    Dual pci-e gen5 slots x16/x8 and 6 sata ports.

  3. Asus Pro Art X670E Creator.
    Nice board with onboard 10G nic.

More budget friendly.

  1. Asrock X670E Steel Legend.
    This is a pretty nice board with all the base features you would need.
    It has a pretty good io at this price point.
    And there is a TB4 addin card for it available,
    that would work in the second pci-e slot.

B650 in my opinion this crown goes to Asus.

Msi B650E.
Well Msi is only using 6 layer pcb’s for all their B650E boards.
There for i’m personally not a big fan of those in particular.

Only downside is that both Asus and Msi don’t provide block diagrams of their boards.
So you have to dual check the board manual of how lanes are actually shared.
Asrock and Gigabyte do provide block diagrams which they should be highly credited for.

But of course if you are looking for just bang for buck.
Then there are also cheaper options.

Now you would say but hey missy but why not Gigabyte then.

well…

Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master is a nice board.
But in my opinion the Msi X670E Carbon, Asrock X670E Taichi,
or Asus Pro Art X670E creator wifi are kinda nicer in my opinion.
Because the Master second pci-e slot is a gen4 that actually goes trough the chipset.
Which is fine for the most part but at a price point of like (up here) 580euro that is kinda unacceptable to me.
Unless you are m.2 nut of course. :slight_smile:

The B650E Aorus Master is a nice board.
However at a similar price point the Asus ROG Strix B650E-E gaming is kinda nicer imo.

But of course the main thing still remains is which kind of features,
that are the most important to you.
And based on that you could select a board that offers the best feature set for that.

MSI Godlike (can I get 72 point font in here? In Gothic?). I mean, how much better can you get than God? Well, like God I suppose.

But more seriously, it depends what specifics you’re looking for. Currently you can get X670, X670E, B650 and B650E with lower-tier X610 and X670 chipset-based motherboards due along any time now. The main differences are number of PCIe lanes and USB connections, and overclockability. If you want to overclock your system you’re going to need a motherboard with steadier, cleaner VRM stages, and better quality construction. But if you don’t need any of that, pretty much any of the main manufacturer boards will suffice. You can’t really go wrong, I’d say.

My personal recommendation is for MSI boards (just not the Godlike). I’ve built recently with a Z690 Carbon, B550 Unify and PRO X670-P. The latter is the only AM5 board amongst them and it’s not top tier - far from it; very un-Godlike you could say - but I figured that as an 8-layer board it would run a 7950X development machine perfectly well and so far it’s great, even with a tower cooler.

The Z690 Carbon and B550 Unify boards are similarly excellent. I went for MSI in those gens principally because of the relatively huge number of M.2 slots - 5 on the Carbon. The Carbon excellence has been carried over into the X670, B650 and Z690 era, but it’s more of a gamer motherboard with ARGB and that great dragon logo which also lights up. Not what I personally wanted for my 7950X system.

The most recent round of motherboards has got stupidly expensive. A motherboard basically just has to connect all the main parts of the computer via PCIe and memory data and address lines and they all do that more than adequately. They’re all using the same chipset from the same manufacturer (in a particular class).

You don’t have to overspend, and if you aren’t bothered about fancy lights or huge amounts of USB outputs (you can always chain them via a hub externally later) then go for a more basic board. They’re all going to operate the same way, provide the same capabilities and perform about the same, within some small margin of error, in the same price range. The top end of the market has become stupid with fancy add-ons like LCD panels that nobody needs but that’s how you get to spend over $1000 on a motherboard which isn’t really doing that much more than a $200 motherboard.

A recent unfortunate experience with the PRO X670-P build (bad CPU it turned out) tells me that POST codes are not only nice to have but necessary if the inevitable happens and your machine won’t boot (first time it’s happened to me and I had no POST codes unlike those other two boards! Typical.) Hopefully you don’t need them.

I would say don’t get taken in by the hype. Figure out the features that you need and buy the best/cheapest board based on reviews on trusted YouTube channels and online testing sites. A motherboard just has to connect all the other parts together and they will all do that with aplomb. It’s hard to get a bad board at the moment I would say, but the cheapest ones are going to skimp on WiFi, e.g. and maybe other features, but that’s mainly an effort to get you to keep going up the range.

It used to be that $250 was a high-end board, but these days that’s about the low end of the decent AM5 range, I’d say, until sales start happening. I’ve noticed boards coming down in price on Newegg by $10 or so here and there, so maybe wait a bit if you don’t have to have a board immediately; the parts I put in my Z690 system last year (DDR5!) are massively discounted a year or so on. AM5 is similarly new: there’ll be new X3D SKUs coming at the end of the month which may move some other CPU prices down and we’ve just had the non-X CPUs which might also lead to more price reductions. AM5 boards may follow suit the closer we get to spring and summer, especially since motherboard sales were down 55% in 2022 (Paul’s Hardware) and the motherboard manufacturers will be wanting to move kit, unless they decide to follow Nvidia’s example and go the high-margin, low unit sales route.

My choice for a gaming PC with ARGB would be the MSI X670E Carbon Wifi. The MSI Tomahawk is about the same board without the ARGB and fewer “Frozr” aluminum heatsinks but still an excellent board. If you can get away with no frills, like I can, then the PRO series works fine. They all come in X670 and B650 variants, the only real difference being fewer PCIe lanes on B650, and fewer USB connections, but not so many that you’d be left wanting (IMHO. I don’t have a load of USB kit hanging off my machines - keyboard, mouse, external HD and a USB stick is about the most at any one time).

If I can make a YouTube recommendation other than Level1Techs, I’d say check out “Buildzoid” on Actually Hardcore Overclocking channel: he does a great, if somewhat rambling, comparison of motherboards from the perspective of someone who does overclocking and who therefore pays great attention to voltage regulators and component and board construction quality. Last I checked he was favoring MSI boards too which helped me feel vindicated in my choice.

Good luck making your choice! It’s hard to imagine being disappointed with a motherboard in 2023 so long as it basically works!

Following on from my rhapsodizing about MSI, I used to mainly favor ASUS (this is back in Pentium prehistory). After doing a lot of due diligence last year, starting with a preference for ASUS then examining ASRock then Gigabyte then ASUS and finally MSI, I settled on MSI for the reasons I mentioned, number of onboard M.2 slots not least amongst them. However, when I’ve been looking at the ASUS range, the ProArt is the board that stands out in all chipset variations, not least because it has onboard 10G Ethernet, and that’s a significant expense if you decide to add it as a PCIe board later (assuming you have the required number of lanes available). So if you’re intending to transfer a lot of large files, and you have a 10Gb ethernet setup, then the ProArt is definitely worth looking at. It also hints at the fact that you’re looking to spend around $500 and aren’t bothered about onboard ARGB. It’s definitely a board I’ve considered, and I would compare it against the MSI MEG Ace which offers about the same features, with one additional M.2 slot, but costs an additional $200. So the ASUS would be hard to beat in a head-to-head with the MSI board. (The MSI board is also E-ATX which may have implications for case choice, etc.)

Tell us what you plan on using your computer for and we can advise, but I’ve not yet seen an AM5 mb without some drawback, even the highest end ones.

Msi boards now days are indeed pretty good.
One thing that they have done really good is their uefi click bios.
But up to the $500,- price range their options are a bit limited.
The X670E Carbon wifi is pretty much their best option out there.
i know the ACE is nice but it is kinda too expensive for what it offers over the Carbon imo.

The same pretty much counts for Gigabyte kinda as well.
I think that Gigabyte does not really have any board in their am5 lineup that.
really stands out in terms of features aside from m.2.
The X670E Aorus Master is kinda the most disappointing Master ever really.

Agreed. I went for the Carbon for an i9-12900 build and it’s a really good motherboard, if you want RGB. (I know, you can turn it off but I think we’ve had that discussion before: my attitude is why get it in the first place if you’re only going to disable it?)

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