Ok so I want to do 3D modelling and I use Photoshop and Illustrator as well. I currently have a AMD cpu and I love it, so for my next build I thinking of an FX 8350. But when I read reviews, the cpu scores low and then I was thinking of either a i5 3570k or an i7 3770.
PLEASE can someone tell me which is better.
Thank you.
As far as I'm concerned, the FX-8350 beats the Core i5 in any multi-threaded task, including 3D modeling. Any benchmark that really tells you otherwise is heavily biased.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/345
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39
I could probably go on forever. The Core i5 has, without a doubt, much faster single-threaded performance, which would account for better performance in games, up until recently. The Core i5 is not the end all be all of CPU's. It's a great gaming CPU, but it isn't the best in every category, and the Core i5 is consistently bested by the FX-8350 in well threaded applications.
The Core i7 3770 might be a better bet in terms of performance, but the price premium means it takes a fairly large hit in value compared to FX-8350, and isn't *THAT* much faster.
When you say threaded apps, please provide them, there simply is not that many out there.
Also, GPU support on certain apps speed them up beyond any CPU's capability, which means the i5 would be better suited, then you have GPU accelleration for your creativity, and i5 to get the best from your games.
FX 8350 is a nice value chip :)
When you say threaded apps, please provide them, there simply is not that many out there.
headdesk
Also, GPU support on certain apps speed them up beyond any CPU's capability, which means the i5 would be better suited, then you have GPU accelleration for your creativity, and i5 to get the best from your games.
FX 8350 is a nice value chip :)
That's actually more of a point to the FX, being that is a cheaper chip, and that games are also far more reliant on GPU power also chalks up another point to the FX again, due to price and price/performance, though there are a few small exceptions where the Core i5 will make a better option, such as in Starcraft II. As I've stated, the Core i5 is not the end all be all of CPUs
No one said it was, but beats the FX in 85% of games....aswell as multi-GPU
Jesus, what is with some folk?
AMD fan train seems well oiled.
Which is a moot point, because gaming wasn't an expressed primary concern. But even so, it's often by less than a 10% margin, and the unlocked Core i5 typically costs $30-40 more, which makes the FX-8350 a better bang for the buck. Logan's benches shows the FX-8350 to be more competitive with the Core i7 more so than the Core i5, and Linus' benches confirm that the FX is faster for games utilizing more modern game engines, such as the newest Cry Engine, and ultimately a competitive CPU now. Times are a changing.
Now please stop spreading your fanboyism and misinformation. No one likes fanboys.
BTW- what happened to you on Tom's Hardware? You had some pretty unpopular opinions, but now you've completely disappeared from the site..
I see, so because i state truth i am now a fanboy...
Christ, god help you in life.
Because people only play 5 games, and that is all that matters, because people pay for Multi-GPU setups to only have less than the proper scaling that they can deliver.
I am not a fanboy, you seem so stuck on riding other peoples cocks than actually seeing sense.
I did not doubt the FX's value, i pointed out the i5's strong points, considering i own AMD and Intel setups...
But no, only AMD is allowed the limelight here in these forums, because the almighty judge says so, like i said, you are a prick, and a very naive one at that.
Glad you know who i am, i was well recognised for unbiased talk there too, mostly about the GTX 480 at the time, when it was cheaper and in direct competition to the Radeon 7850 2GB.
I was also ranked Expert, and also had many medals behind me in certain subjects, Overclocking/CPU's/GPU's
I had been there just over 1 year and out scored many in a short time due to me getting best answers, made it to the number 1 spot in score, and was number 7 on the leaderboards, not bad for a what? intel/ Nvidia fanboy??
LOL.........
I was eventually banned because my words are too harsh for most as truth hurts alot, a known fact.
Considering the AMD FX is faster for the stated tasks in the OP, and it does so for less money, I don't see why a Core i5 would warrant a recommendation. You would need a 3770K or better to match the FX-8350 in said tasks. And since the OP is coming from an AMD chip, it could also reduce upgrade costs by re-using the motherboard, RAM, etc.
To suggest a Core i5 because it's a faster gaming CPU makes no sense since gaming wasn't even mentioned in the OP. And then to go off on some random (untrue) tangent about multi-GPU configurations to further discredit AMD as an option... Just please do us all a favor and disconnect your internet. Now. Please.
Jerm, you seem to miss the point totally...
He did mention the intel CPU's, or have you completely not read the opening post?
Hahaha untrue now....
Ok, so solid proof coming.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k--4.8ghz--multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/03/amd_fx8150_multigpu_gameplay_performance_review/
Gaming may not be his main purpose, but if he wants to.... he knows what will do better, the i7 is the one to get for the best of both worlds.
I never discredited the FX as an option, you are painting it that way because you hate me talking anything about the i5....
http://teksyndicate.com/videos/crysis-3-benchmarks-amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-i7-3770k-both-overclocked
That is more up to date.
Now the fact you got the ban hammer (from Tom's no less) says a lot. And if you follow Logans videos, you'd know we don't like fanboys, and we're trying to create a friendly environment where people can get advice, and you stealing threads to insult other members and spread misinformation is pretty destructive to those goals. In short, you keep this up, you days here are numbered.
Oh look, 1 game that favours FX...
As i said before, people only play 5 games on the market...obviously.....
I am now a fanboy although the only one here discrediting anything is you.
I think i said in one post that the 8350 is a good value part......
But no, i am a fanboy..... if i speak anything about anything, i am a fucking fanboy....
And yeah, the only thing you have against me is Toms hardware where i got banned for speaking too harshly, not misinformation....
Good on you for that one pal.
As i said, riding that cock good...
Ah come on boys stop fighting, topic starter need good advice no fightings, or do i need to get my horseriding whip to punnish both haha :p
okay seriously..
the topic starter asked advice about 3 cpus here the I5 3570k tje i7 3770 (not k) and the FX8350..
hes gonne do some moddeling photoshop en illustation.. with it.
so to me that make sence, nobody talks about gaming here at the point.So to me what i think about it, All the three cpus will do a fine job at the things he is gonne use them for.
so the question is what the smartest to choose.
the i5 is a great cpu, but if i look at the price i would go in this case for the amd cause its just cheaper, and have very good performance for what you gonne do with it.
wenn it comes to gaming, i dont gonna talk about the i7 3770, cause that has only a turbo core, and a locked multiplirer, so its not that high clockable. as the K version of intel or the fx from amd with unlocked multipliers.
in some games the intel i5 perform better then the amd, but it depens on wich game you play and how its designed, some games will do just better with a intel nvidia setup some will do better on a amd radeon setup visa versa.
but in the most benchmarks we've seen, that the FX8350 beats the i5 stock and overclocked 8 out for 10 times.. and is very close to the i7 3770k.
but that doesnt make a i5 a bad cpu for gaming it just depends on wich games you play, and wich gpu setup you wanne use.
wenn it comes to streaming gaming, then the FX8350 out perform the i5 it kills it, and in some games it kills the i7 3770k toor its a close bett. and that make sence if you gonne look at the price of those cpu´s
if you gonne look overall to price/perfomance, then the FX8350 is realy a good choise to go, its the cheapest one of the 3, and the performance to the i73770k are close.
in streaming and multitreading programs, the FX do a very good job, somethimes eaven better, the intel is better in single treated applications, cause theire Hyper trading. but that doesnt make much sence.
i would go for the AMD just for the price/prestation.. in this case.
but it can all chance wenn haswell comes, maybe the prices from the ivy bridge wil increase that much, that i can be intressting to wait. till hasswell is there..
but if the price of the socket 1155 still stays that high like it is now, then would go AMD
and im not a fan girl, i just want the best price to pay for the job ☺
Amen to that.
I would also like to ask CUDA is better for Adobe products? But I was thinking of getting a 7950 its around the same price for a 660TI 3GB and the 7950 also has 3GB but do you guys think I should just stick to the 660TI 3GB.
intel's to
can't you accept the facts, and accept that the fx is the best price/performance value (also against the 3770k) in the mid-range league? And could you stop insulting people? jerk
well done :)
Just gonna butt in here and say that an i5 at the same clock speed is just as fast at rendering (actually faster in photoshop) than an 8350, thats not to say the 8350 is bad its great especially for 30$ cheaper but the i5 is no slouch when rendering anything, and can even be faster at encoding if you use the iGPU.
Either or will work for what you want, ill state that im partial to the i5 though because of the consistency and features it has compared to the AMD ofering.
Only if you plan on using After Effects, which only supports CUDA. I believe the rest of the programs in the Adobe suite that do support GPU acceleration can use either CUDA or OpenCL.
With the Adobe products, they do happen to prefer Intel products over AMD, but then again, if you have GPU compute turned on, then you'll need an Nvidia card, and it will give you a much more noticeable boost than switching processors. I mean, if you have the money, get a i7 3770k and a Geforce GTX 680. Otherwise, you might just want to switch to something of the Nvidia genre greater than a 650 Ti.