Which am5 boards to get or avoid? Stability priority nr1

Tell me about it…I’m planning on getting some 25Gbit gear. Those NICs are PCIe 3.0 x8 (homelab HBAs are too). So that juicy CPU PCIe 5.0 x4 slot just doesn’t help at all. It’s either the one and only 5.0 x16 slot or one of two x8 slots. Which is insane if you think about it.

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That is the situation I am stuck in, AM4 though.

Intel E810-XXVDA2 is PCIe Gen4 x8.

Consumer boards often will overclock whether you ask it to or not. It’s how they get reviewers to say “The X-leet Pro MP55X gives a 5% performance boost in cinebench over the competition, making it the best motherboard for Halo” when motherboards really are more about IO than performance.

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Sure but it would be nicer with a lets say 1x Gen4/5 PCIe NIC for 10G or even 1x Gen5 for dual (Gen4 will probably be pushing it)

@Exard3k
Yeah, ASMedia ASM1166 2x Gen3 and are in general fine but they don’t take more than 6 drives unless you do PMs which doesn’t seem to be ideal although I haven’t tried SATA PMs myself ever.

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I also use an Asus ProArt AM5 machine for work (compiling, Kubernetes, databases, Office365, etc).

With ECC memory and no overclocking it is very stable. I tested it with Prime95 on full blast for multiple days in all the different modes.

The only instability is occasional hickups of the integrated grafics controller. I have a feeling that this is being caused by crappy drivers rather than hardware.

I am thinking about adding an nVidia card and disabling the iGpu; but the instability has not been bothering me too much.

The instability exibits by the screen going black for one or two seconds once every few days.

I know some people still have stability issues, but it’s certainly not the default on AM5. Stability seems to come down to memory die people end up with, and if people try to run 4-module kits at default settings. At least with SK Hynix chips AM5 tends to be rock solid for people.

Personally speaking, despite being a first-gen socket & first DDR5 for AMD I’ve had far fewer issues with my B650E Riptide + 7700X build than I ever did with Haswell systems I’d built prior. That being said, I was also fortunate enough to end up with SK Hynix A-die in the free RAM with AMD combo from the Microcenter promo before I knew anything at all about DDR5 or what to look for. I’d highly recommend any of the B650E ASRock boards.

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Hit cloudninjas up. They have the 8 node Supermicro Ryzens in stock. This is who I buy from. Tell them Carl sent you. AS-3015MR-H8TNR.

ASRock BMC just doesn’t work right. Was really happy when Supermicro started doing AMD Ryzens.

Thanks all for your input. I’m taking these recommendations and comments into account, but probably will just wait this one out. Too many issues even with expensive boards, though I will keep in mind to go with Hynix A-die should an irresistible BF deal pop up.

First off, what do you consider a sufficient number of back IO ports. Also, what do you plan on using the computer for? Also, I generally don’t try to judge reliability of a product based on individual reports from Amazon reviews (too much noise, too few people objectively rate products, and fake reviews are way too frequent).

It kills me that manufacturers still think a single 2.5G NIC is good enough for a $500+ mobo. Plus most of them use terrible slot layouts… add a 10G NIC and a sound card and now your modern 3.75 slot GPU won’t fit.

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While true a USB 3.0 sound card / mixer is really a better functioning tech than an internal one, these days, and I have seen m.2 10GbE adapters with a ribbon cable below $60, too. USB 10GbE adapters will likely be a thing soon, too.

As for internal expansions, fact of the matter is the only card requiring a full x8 PCIe 5.0 slot today are 16k screens and it will not surprise me in the slightest if a dual m.2 solution for m.2 slots are found soon. Imagine the power of a 4090 compressed to an 80x50 mm 2 slot m.2 abomination, you know it will happen eventually. :slightly_smiling_face:

Just wanted to add that I haven’t been having a great experience with the X670 Aorus Elite AX rev 1. Everything was fine until I switched a 1080ti that was in there when building late last year, for a 4080 about 3 weeks ago. Now I get a DRAM LED on first boot in the morning, but that goes away on restart. Tried clearing CMOS, Tried one DIMM, latest bios, Memtest will not even boot for me so I cannot verify it’s NOT the board but if I had to buy again, probably wouldn’t go with this board due to how impossible it is to troubleshoot.

Yeah unfortunately that particular board is kinda known,
for being wonky in regards to memory overclocking.

Yeah that is kinda debatable i guess In regards to an additional 10Gbe nic onboard.
It would definitely being nice if was implemented on more boards doe.
But for allot of people it is probably not really a necessity.
Still there is an option from Asus below the $500,- regardless.

I searched for the b650e aorus master 1.x rev u mentiond but couldnt find it
Only the 1.0 us on there site

I too am looking for a new upgrade. Does anyone know if the Asus ProArt works well with linux?

At the moment im using the Asrock Taichi x370 (on linux only), from the moment that i bought that board ive been having very bad experiences, primarily USB disconnect issues. I cant even update the BIOS since the last version i updated, their BIOS notes on new versions say i will lose support for my cpu if i update, meanwhile i have to deal with the buggy BIOS version im on. Can you believe that crap??
You see, you also have to look at that part of the manufacturer, do they care enough about their customers to not kill support for their CPU’s in new BIOS versions??

All i can say is from my experience (and from other online reports), stay far away as possible from Asrock. This is the first and last board il ever get from them, i dont care how new their board is, they dont care about their users.

Yes.

Well of course everybody can have good or bad experiences with a certain brand.
But as far as i´m concerned Asrock actually makes some of better am5 boards currently.

Try disabling Resizable BAR and/or Above 4G Decoding in the BIOS. Pascal cards don’t support it anyway. You should also check that your card’s firmware is current:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/

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When paired with SK Hynix chips in the RAM, that’s for darn sure. If I was given a second chance on my AM5 build I’d buy my ASRock B650E Riptide combo again.

ASRock was slow with the UEFI updates in the first five months, but apparently so were the other three brands. With a year of maturity on the platform it’s been a breeze, and a much smoother experience than I had with Z87 & 4770K. I only have to mess with the hardware when I have an irresistible urge to do so.

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Have any others showed up that could be added to that list?

I can add ASRock’s X670E Pro RS on the get list. Zero problems in nine months.