What Viable Alternatives are there to YouTube?

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decentralized doesn’t just mean it’s going to automatically attract hundreds of millions of users. I know you probably know that, but it’s not a magic bullet. There are fringe communities and there are vast numbers of technically illiterate ‘normies’ who don’t have a clue or a care about this.

Agreed. They get huge because they have $ millions in marketing, hundreds of $ millions in server hardware. hoards of paid developers & engineers behind them. consultants working with government agencies to enable backend content monitoring (which is a polite way of putting it). Spokespeople working with policy makers and in the US lobbying with $$$ etc… they are megalith level.

Historically smaller off grid sites have gotten away with such things. We are not in that reality anymore imo. It’s only an opinion but seeing how things are trending it’s looking more and more like no matter what site your using to host videos it is going to be under the microscope.

well, viable for the owners, there’s plently.

Viable for the creators, you have vimeo, and that’s really only once you have an audience.

And in terms of searchability and content curation for users, there’s just no comparison.

I tried it, most clients are shit.

Sorry for off topic.

do it already, I am very interested in that kind of stuff. Atm using telegram. I also use discord to stay in touch with 1 person, @TeckMonster

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You guys got off the rails ?

Can we get back to alt platforms other than Youtube.

In order to choose an alternative you need to examine why you need one.

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Every since google took control of an imperfect platform, It has no longer been about the people sharing with other people.

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I know exactly what you are talking about. It became less fun when the creators’ became monetized. It seems like all they do now is complain about their videos being demonetized and begging on Patreon. I know people jump all over Linus for his shilling but I’m more tolerant of it than I am just straight panhandling. This is why I don’t watch much Youtube anymore.

The burning question is how one would do such a thing and still pay the bills. Keep out corporate influence/ government regulations and allow the normal agreements of of what is acceptable/ or not within the community. Cause we all know the regular people are too stupid to figure out what that is themselves.

There’s nothing that can be done now. If they would have just kept it the way it is, you would still have people uploading for fun and the burning need for attention. Once you introduce money, the genie is out of the bottle. Youtube can’t go back and no one else can either.

I agree… youtube merit declined the sec google took it over. Basically turned it in the backstabbing money grubbing/begging shitfest it is now. Not to say that there are not still things of merit but it gets lost in the primary focus of the platform.

Lets become CableTV :slight_smile:

Has anyone watched cable recently ? Cause it is bad… bad everything.

You sense a coming crackdown too?

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The OP of the thread posts a link to the AJ take down and im guessing it won’t stop there unless regulators step in, so yes.

This is what I came here to post. There is always someone faster.

il make this point again once more. aimed specifically at platform or user monetization.

Policy change.

What has that to do with monetization ? Look at the youtubers who got taken off patreon because their views were politically incorrect. Paypal have skirted with this idea too (can’t remember if they actually did anything). All the financial players who act as a crowd source or transaction handler are involved in the same level of peer pressure to remove certain content. They fear their business might suffer, punished legally or in worst cases they actually agree ideologically with censorship.

Sorry i know it sounds negative but imo there is no building a new super ‘alt-tech’ site with mass adoption whilst the political climate remains this hostile.

I do think Small, alternative, decentralized, platform for enthusiast groups will work ( that’s what forums are if you think about it ) hence why bitchute will work for us here. But nothing right now is a real alternative for TV and nothing is a real alternative for Youtube (in the context of mass adoption). The sooner those two combine the sooner it can all be said and done and people can choose to either switch off or accept it.

Maybe the question should be more "what video site alternatives are there for alternative thinkers " I don’t see alternative news being compatible with megacorp platforms in future unless the law is specific on allowing such things.

the writing is on the wall, the internet is changing.

Bah humbug

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But youporn also took down AJ. So porn sites are not an exception. Maybe PH is for a while but for how long.

They used to have that I think. They used to be a little bit elitist about what they would host (wasn’t all that bad though).
By now their only requirement is that it’s your work I think.

The best thing about vimeo is that they actually care about video quality.

A lot of people seem to recommend d.tube again and again, but every time I even try watching something on there it shits the bed as soon as I set the quality to HD. And it’s not my bandwidth, I can watch youtube4k and netflix and whatever else at the same time no problem. It’s also not a temporary issue, as it happened every time I tried it over the past few months.

/edit
Huh… funny… just tried it again and it seems to be working on the one video I tried.
But I think ryan mentioned that they had issues with the upload limit, like 3GB or something?

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as much as i love the level 1 content if i had to pay to watch videos weekly or monthly it would be an immediate nope. ( i do not keep a credit card/ debit card in my name active for more than a month. even with throwaway cards.)

as for a usable platform that is viable vimeo is my first choice as it is not complete garbage.

d.tube works but its kinda sketch as to how long it will last and if it can even turn a profit for the creator is an unknown.

pornhub has the porn problem so no viewing at places with porn filters. ( creator pay out is also an unknown)

bitchute does not look to bad but not many “normies” will adapt to using it as it does not follow the google and mass media trend of this is what we need you to be brainwashed with feel to it.( personally i like it easy to use for a first timer, and does not look like it has censorship problems. )

as for the rest of the hosts ( excluding floatplane monthly sub auto out) are almost use able but have under the hood problems for most.

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all bitchute needs is decent mobile apps and it’s basically ready to rock. not sure if it was listed or not, but LBRY might work, though you need to run a client last I checked.