Am i having a fever dream? Found this on eBay and its an 8 TB Intel SSD for what seems to be a really good price? Intel Ark has ZERO listings for it and i have no idea when the heck its from. Would this need any special motherboard features like bifurcation of a Pcie Slot or should this work in any motherboard? Looking to build a general purpose threadripper pro build and if this ends up being a good deal for an 8 TB ssd i might grab 1
Heres the link on eBay:
these are legit. should work in any mobo. they are a bit slow and qurky and 500$ is a tad on the high side but otherwise is ok
Damn slow and quirky is an understatement, Intel P4500/P4510 4 TB NVMe U.2 SSD - Abyssmal sequential results with Broadcom HBA 9400 and low read with AMD NVMe RAID0 - But Optane works fine?! - #44 by aBav.Normie-Pleb
Ah got it. Might be better off with some Kioxia drives then. Thank you for the info and good luck with any upcoming videos. Currently going through your Rambles playlists to just learn about stuff. Hoping to join uni for Computer Science and Engineering in 2025 so wish me luck
That P4500 was the moment I lost trust in Intel NAND-based SSDs.
Intel never properly fixed that situation or properly discribed what was going on.
Why am I sure it was Intel’s fault? They exchanged the P4500 for new P4510 that showed the exact same behavior and then opted to completely refund my SSDs since they couldn’t see a firmware fix coming for these models.
Since it has been over a decade: Did you hear what was actually the cause of the issue with the Intel 320 SATA SSDs? (Issue: SSDs randomly lose all data (in that state report only having like 32 MB) and can then be used again when they are secure-erased)
I still have one Intel 320 600GB that suddenly lost all its data 3 times in its life so far and only worked again after performing a secure erase on it.
The SSD was already running the “fixed” firmware before it happened for the first time.
Intel (?) did a repair on it, replacing a capacitor but it then happened again.
The last time it happened the SSD was used as a data/non-OS drive in a system that was running absolutely stable. The system’s PSU works fine to this day, when it happened the drive was basically idling and disappeared from the system, the system itself didn’t crash.
It really bugs me that I never got a resolution what went wrong there, the 320 600GB was the first Intel SSD I ever bought and the P4500 4TB was the last. Some Optane drives in-between but at least those a still a-okay.
I heard unofficially that some of the internal structures are not wear leveled so whenever the key is generated and the drive is initialized it’s done but then until you do a smart erase it just keeps using the same small area until it wears out or becomes unreadable
I see P4510 SSDs being recommended often. Does that mean that they’re not safe to use if you care about your data? This is the first time I’ve heard of major issues with Intel enterprise SSDs, which seem to have an excellent reputation.
The data itself was fine; I’ve encountered multiple scenarios with significantly lowered performance from the P4500 and P4510 SSDs that killed their qualification for my use cases.
Broadcom is also recommended pretty frequently but is a piece of crap company with buggy products in the present, their recommendations are an echo from the past LSI days (HBAs and RAID controllers up to the 9300 line, starting with 9400 they became Broadcom’s own designs).
Yeah I’ve seen your horror stories with the Broadcom HBAs and because of that, I didn’t even consider Broadcom NICs even though they were much cheaper for some reason.
Are other Intel SSDs besides the 4500 and 4510 safe?
That I can’t tell you since I lack the personal experience (stopped buying Intel SSDs) and since somehow my personal experiences quite regularly are in a stark contrast to what’s praised online I don’t recommend anything I haven’t personally tested.
At this point in time my favorite U.2/U.3 SSDs are from Micron, in the market I’m located in (Germany) they are typically a great value, Kioxia is much more expensive and Samsung Enterprise SSDs are something I won’t get again since it’s hard to get firmware updates as a retail end customer.