so this has been sitting in the back of my mind for a while now, and i'm pretty sure this might never happen, but wat if instead of getting a actual video card when u bought a new GPU that instead u would get a GPU chip and Stock fan made to be put into a socket located on the same board as your CPU.
now of course i think if this ever happened thier would be 2 types of GPU sockets one designed by AMD and one designed by Nvidia. Leaving u with 4 possible options of motherboards to choose from.
Now its not like i am thinking of ever trying to start something like this, im looking more at wat people's ideas on wat this would be like are, thanks for any response and try to keep the conversation somewat constructive.
I don't know much about how Mobile GPU's work, but dont ones with ddr5 have it on-die or on-chip? if so, they could develop something like that, maybe. I think maybe being able to change the chip in the Graphics card its self would make some sense.
I think it would be cool to design the basic I/O stuff, 7.1 channel audio, usb, all that jazz, BUT, heres the catch! Remove all the Legacy PCI, pci express, all of those card sockets, and use that space to put two radeon hd 7000 series mobile GPUs in crossfire! possible even pop down at least 1GB of GDDR5 memory , possibly over at LEAST 2100MHz.
Yea, there would not be room at ALL for expansion, but you better be bappy with the onboard stuff, or why else would you buy the board? xD Possibly make some room for a daughter card (my understanding of a daughter card is like instead of making the motherboard bigger, the PCB goes up off of the board.) Use the daughter board for front pannel shit, usb headers, switches, POST Debug LED, etc. Maybe even a secondary daughter board for more voltage regulationz :D
so my general idea is that if this ever happened it would be kinda like wat laptop companies do now except the gpus would be more powerful then mobile styles and they would be a lot easier to swap out
A graphics card is in essence the exact same thing as a "computer" (PCB + CPU + RAM + I/O) It's pretty much a computer inside your computer.
Computer system = PCB, I/O, Processing Unit, RAM.
Graphics card = PCB, I/O, Processing Unit, RAM.
You can even extend this to sound cards.
Sound card = PCB, I/O, Processing Unit, RAM.
The only real difference is the types of data being processed.
If graphics cards were sold like CPUs I'd see that as buying a graphics motherboard, buying a graphics processing unit, and buying graphics RAM, and a graphics heatsink and fan, much like how we do that exact process for our system motherboard, CPU, RAM.
I dont know why they couldnt sell graphics cards as they are now. And just make them changable. As in buy the best PCB you can, swap the ram and chipset and add your own cooler (or the one that comes with the chip). SO you could be a good PCB (high overclocking one, with good Power usage... MSI etc) Then simply purchase the chip you want, and add the Stock cooler (or custom ones)
Wouldn't that kinda make AMD and Nvidia the only ones making chips? Like how Intel and AMD are? I mean if it were to happen there'd possibly be some new people making em, but you get the main idea.
Isnt that the way it is now? Basically the PCB would made by a manufacturer like MSI, ASUS, EVGA and there cooler would come with it. But the chip is socketed, but purchased separetly. Would make costs go down, make different budget boards. 670 chip on a 660 board etc etc.
Yeah. For GPUs to be sold like CPUs, the only thing that would need to happen is they'd have to make the GPU chip socketed and the VRAM slotted so they'd be exchangeable. We can already exchange coolers on graphics cards. But if they did that it would significantly increase the size of the cards.
Thinking about this the other way around, it makes you wonder why we accept this method for GPUs so happily. Could you imagine the rage if motherboards were sold with a CPU, RAM, and heatsink already soldered/attached to it? And you couldn't just choose specifically what motherboard, CPU, RAM, and heatsink combination you wanted?
actually i think u can choose between a 240w or a 330w and also yes newegg does sell ones that small not 240w exactly but they do have a 250w one. side note: the smallest psu they sell is a 85w for itx boards
maybe make the gpu socketed and the cooler on one side of the card and be able to add vram on the other side using laptop style memory sticks, so technically u could choose how much memory u have, what type of cooler u want, and wat gpu u want
I think just based on everything I've read it seems like with mobile graphics and cpu advancements in ROD it's unlikely we'll see future MOBOs have a regular CPU or GPU slot. Everything is going to be much smaller. Hardware manufacturers are able to make even smaller adjustments to their hardware with new technology, and as you probably know (Windows 8 Tablets etc.) mobile processsing is getting close to being equivalent to what desktop processing has been over the last 10-20 years...
It's getting close. But I'd put money on PCs needing a lot less cooling, at largest Micro ATX Motherboards, and more powerful integrated graphics inside GPUs (Google AMD integrated grahpics in CPU). You can get playable frame rates on some decent games at 1080p. The sheer fact this is posible in 2012 is amazing considering where we were even 5 years ago when people were struggling to keep the most demanding games at 30fps with the best hardware.
Now we're laughing at 460s SLI ed when we power on our non-reference GTX 680 (not me but you get the idea). It's a brave new world out there. Mobile and Desktop technologies are going to integrate, and we're going to see a whole new kind of PC. Maybe, just maybe, consumer computing technology won't be so throttled back from what is actually available, and AMD and Intel will begin competing not over who can run CS6 and Battlefield 3 faster, but who can begin to compute for things not limited to a single user, and/or a single will.
It's way too early in the morning. Forgive me for my spelling and coherence.