Im not a team red or team green fanboy, i'm just curious what kinds of sinister acts has AMD done.
@psycho_666 has pointed out some great points. "So... 970 issues - Nvidia is not guilty... Law suits against Samsung and Qualcom for questionable stuff - Nvidia is not guilty. Nvidia games - Batman, Assassins Creed, etc... No, its the developer, Nvidia is not guilty. Nvidia falls advertising Batman - Nvidia is not guilty... Nvidia using non G-Sync technology on G-Sync branded laptops.. Nvidia still not guilty. Now we had DX12 test, granted its just one DX12 test, but its DX12 non the less... Nvidia sucks big fat coc*sicle on it, and how do they react? The blame the devs. So the devs are guilty, not Nvidia. Now we have shitty DX12 support, and my guess is Nvidia will not be guilty again. "
In relation to the examples above what has AMD done which would be classified evil and unfair for the consumer.
AMD hasn't done evil things. they've done "Dumb" things. that's about it.
I'll relate it to his comment. I'll go as back as to 2011.
AMD releases Bulldozer to the masses and continues re-releasing the same processor over and over - AMD is dumb.
AMD re-did the same thing with the Vishera based processors - AMD is Dumb.
AMD tried to sell the 9590 for $800 dollars. it performed exactly the same as an overclocked $200 8350. - AMD is Dumb.
AMD focused on APUS since 2011. with the EXACT Same architecture design as Vishera. instead of focusing on core performance they focused on graphical performance - AMD is Dumb
AMD made HSA (it's revolutionary workstation feature) but it can only be used with APU's that have terrible IPC- AMD is Dumb.
AMD re-released the 7000 series into the R9-200 series. - AMD is Dumb
AMD re-released 3 graphics cards from the R9-200 series into the R9-300 series. - AMD is Dumb.
AMD decided to release Carrizo [Excavator] strictly as a mobile CPU instead of a Desktop one. AMD IS DUMB.
AMD tries to sell the R9 Nano for $649. SAME as the R9 Fury X. - AMD is Dumb.
if you want to get down to it. AMD being dumb and deciding to focus on APUS thinking people cared for that for like 5 years put them in this predicament they are in now. where if Zen doesn't deliver. AMD could go 6 feet under.
I'm mean seriously AMD has done some dumb shit the past 5 years.
All AMD had to do to get somewhere was, skip excavator ENTIRELY. there was no need to invest onto anything that had to do with Bulldozer / Vishera, get rid of all the xx50 cards / Non-X cards of the 200 series and focused on Zen. as for the Fury shenanigans. AMD should of just not even made the Fury X and just stuck with the Nano. why is there 3 Fury Cards to begin with. Let the Nano exist and be done with it. there was no need for a Fury X, and Fury Non-X card. let the line up be like this
R7-360x R9-370x R9-380x R9-390x R9 Fury X (This being the R9 Nano not the actual fury X water-cooled GPU.)
If they didn't do it that way you'd get fairly random results on your graphics cards, like someone may get a 390x that performs say 10% worse than another 390x that really should have been a 390.
As for the APU stuff, carrizo is a fairly solid mid range mobile chip, there probably wasn't much reason to release it on the desktop, granted I can't find any real benchmarks yet still, when it seems to have been out forever now. Overall APUs are fairly solid as entry level chips, and if HSA gets more support it'll be even more useful.
And since 2011 Intel has done the exact same thing. IPC has increased roughly 10% in 4 years, meanwhile the hot topic is GT2, GT3e, and GT4 integrated graphics.
I kind of agree. I mean, nVidia re-released half of Kepler in the GTX 700 series. It was a good idea at the time.
Nano is the same hardware as a Fury X and has a smaller market it's appealing to, so from those perspectives it makes sense. I do agree it should have been $550 or less considering how it's supposed to actually slot in around the Fury on performance.
Erm, completely different than what 3dfx went through. ATi was a successful company worth just shy of $6 Billion when they were purchased. AMD made the purchase for physical and intellectual property and has put great use to both.
3dfx was a mismanaged company that had squandered all its resources into a dead API, outdated hardware, and overpaid executives. nVidia bought them specifically to gain access to intellectual not physical property. The only things nVidia has pulled from 3dfx is the GeForce FX series (which sucked) and SLI. Okay maybe a few more things than that but hardly anything else worth mentioning.
considering most if not all the xx50 cards and the Non-X cards overclocked to the same clocks speeds as the stock X cards. i would still argue there's no need for them to exist. i mean it's good for us but sort of bad for AMD. as a gamer why buy a 390x when a 390 performs exactly the same?
At this very moment there is only ONE laptop with a Carrizo chip in it out right now and it's the HP Envy (I believe). i felt like they should of just skipped excavator entirely. i mean considering the low sales of APUs clearly people didn't want it. they are great chips for budget builds but that's about it.
yeah but Intel did focus on IPC too. which is ultimately put them above AMD today.
AMD releases Hawaii cards with only reference coolers, the coolers are loud and the samples sent to reviewers have defects
AMD releases fury, Fury is watercooled to make up for the 'loud/hot' PR that came from the reference only hawaii launch and caused them to loose many sales. They force reference cards which OC badly and have noisy waterpumps defeating the purpose of watercooling....
AMD is an idiot, twice in a row, with a completely different CEO is too much.. Useless idiots... Not to mention Su ceding the price advantage, refusing to be the 'cheapest option', while not having the most features, or the highest performance, or the best game bundles, or anything like that....