Wendell Update Sept 7

Well if my post can made you at least consider one thing, i hope its to reconsider you comment about the people on discord being cancer, now that you know just who and how many of those people there are.

And i hope its reasonably clear what are points of view, and what are based on fact.

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Oh right yeah, mystical facts that aren't a part of the public record? Those are speculation until they are backed up. This allusion to private knowledge and a plea to trust you doesn't mean anything. Why would you propagate this information if you won't back it up with something?

Right well I am obviously talking about my experiences with these people from that I perceived as coming from the discord to the temporary discord. People were fucking horrible, saying it was the 8chan or whatever people is a cop out.

says the guy who has said a LOT and hasn't backed up a single thing.

Where are your screenshots? Which people said bad things? Can you prove it was from the community?

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You say this.. (not pointing to anything specific i might add)

Then you say this.

Im sure i just said something about one rule for one person and one for another not working.

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You want facts?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TekSyndicate/comments/50799t/pistol_speaks_says_qain_left_unfinished_work/

Now please go away.

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Yeah man, I'm sorry I didn't have the foresight screencap more stuff. I guess I am not as practiced in this as you guys.

Honestly though, what's the point? You guys are the admins and you're egging people on and shouting down anyone that doesn't agree with you.

So are you

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Waiting for you to back something up, is all.

Yeah already read it. Read it in discord.

Please go away? No.

I don't do things just because someone tells me to them. Kinda like if someone says "kill yourself" I don't kill myself, I take it as a sign someone is trying to offend me.

I'm happy to keep you waiting.

yet the facts are "mystical" to you...

That's some kind of bullet proof logic you've got going there.

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Right. Then please don't continue to dispute things you know nothing about, if you can not prove that you are correct.

There is nothing productive that comes from that, and it's just wasting everyone's time.

So, if you can not contribute anything to the topic, then don't post to the topic.

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Yeah no the "mystical facts" was in reference to something one of the moderators posted on this topic earlier.

oh ok...

I guess that really clears everything up. Pistol and Logan did nothing wrong. I'm going to re-instate my patron donation now. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP BRO!!! :D

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I'm going to do whatever I want, mate. You have a problem with messing with your echo chamber? I kinda like that man.

You don't actually dictate what is contribution to a topic. I think I am kinda illustrating a problem with the moderation. You're in your own clique and you're more than willing to let the conversation go on so far as what people are saying goes along with your agreed narrative even if it gets out of hand and even contribute to it, but that's it. Anything that disagrees with your narrative is not a contribution to the topic.

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Because we have all been there first hand quit telling us the sky is neon green you're arguing with people who know first hand

Tick, Tick, Tick, and someone new walks into this office.

Man: Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
Receptionist: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
Man: No, I haven't, this is my first time.

Man: Ah, Is this the right room for an argument?
Mr. Vibrating: I told you once.
Man: No you haven't.
Mr. Vibrating: Yes I have.
Man: When?
Mr. Vibrating: Just now.
Man: No you didn't.
Mr. Vibrating: Yes I did.
Man: You didn't
Mr. Vibrating: I did!
Man: You didn't!
Mr. Vibrating: I'm telling you I did!
Man: You did not!!
Mr. Vibrating: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?

Man: I came here for a good argument.
Mr. Vibrating: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
Man: An argument isn't just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating: It can be.
Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
Mr. Vibrating: No it isn't.
Man: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
Mr. Vibrating: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Man: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'

Man: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

(short pause)

Mr. Vibrating: No it isn't.

Tick, Tick, Tick, and someone new walks into this office.

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See, that would be true if I were telling other people to stop. This entire thread is full of people defending Logan.

The difference is, they are giving reasons, they are explaining their point, and having a normal discussion about it.

You, on the other hand come in more like

"EVERYONE IS WRONG SHOW ME PROOF I DONT HAVE PROOF AND IM GOING TO IGNORE EVERYTHING IVE SEEN AND BEEN TOLD BUT YOU ARE WRONG AND I AM RIGHT"

You aren't coming in here with an alternate point of view. You aren't coming in here to add to the conversation.

The entire staff team actualy knows what happened Yet that consent seems so weird to you.

You're coming here with the soul intent to stir up trouble and argue. You've been warned about this exact thing before. Ive even givin you a warning myself. I could have temp banned you then, but I did not, because that is not how our moderation works here.

If it worked like you say it does, you wouldnt be on our forums.

People are free to come here and contribute. Discuss why you thing Wendell is right, Discuss why you think Logan is right. That what these comments are for.

But do NOT come here just to start an argument, or cause trouble in these forums. You will not be put up with.

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Pretty much this. If we moderated like you said we do you wouldn't be here full stop. but thats not how we moderate. Heck, we have had threads in the past from people just questioning one of our decisions and us having a civil discussion with them about it and why and taking their points on board and making appropriate changes to how we do things.

If you dont want that, fine, we can do it your way. But i think your just saying that because it sounds like were being evil moderators with a power trip.

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Right. Stirring up trouble is disagreeing with your narrative or suggesting it should be more nuanced.