Welp... Going Custom loop for the first time

I already ordered an XSPC Raystorm Acetal/copper CPU block, and an EK GTX TitanX/980ti copper GPU block.

I'm really nervous about mixing metals after reading some horror stories, so I need some suggestions on what to get as far as fittings. radiators, pump, etc. I'm wanting copper radiators, but I'm not sure which ones are and which ones are not... I've found some pretty cheap ones on Ebay from XSPC. Are those copper?

Also, I think I might go with some UV purple tubing, with distilled water. What should I use for anti-corrosion, and for killing microbes?

Also planning on using 1x 360mm and 1x 240mm. I figured that would be enough.

Mixing metals isn't too big of an issue just don't include aluminum (only found in really cheap sketchy stuff) and you'll be fine. XSPC rads are copper and brass threads (use of brass for threads is pretty standard) I think premade fluids are all you'll find that has anti corrosive in it but you can add PT nuke to your distilled water for a biocide, a piece of silver in the loop could act as a biocide instead of an additive.

What about fittings? Are the cheap ones a bad idea? What metals are they usually made of? I'd hate to pay $6 a fitting if i don't have to.

INCOMING ESSAY

You're about where I started with my loop. I started out with an XSPC-assembled kit, that included the Raystorm block, D5 Vario pump, dual 5.25" bay reservoir, compression fittings, and tubing. I later added the EK FC R9 290X block/backplate for my GPU, and a second radiator. Then I changed all the fittings from the XSPC ones (which had a diamond-pattern knurling on them that was just awful) to EK ACF fittings, and changed the bay res to an EK DBAY Res MX (I ended up stripping the acetal threads on the XSPC res, but the EK one is a bit higher quality, better dampened, and looks better). My Raystorm block (after 2 years) has stress cracking on the plastic mounting plate, so I'm soon to change that out for either the newer Raystorm Pro, or an EK Supremacy, which have aluminum mounting plates.

Now to actually answer your questions :)

As SoulFallen said, you're only going to find aluminum blocks/rads with real cheap products. Copper and aluminum connected by an electrolyte (water) creates a galvanic reaction, which can short the components blocks are mounted to and lead to corrosion of loop parts, which is obviously undesirable. The XSPC rads you're looking at are copper. I have an EX280 and EX140 in my loop, and they've been great for me. Particularly because they're pretty slim, which is good for my case that was not at all designed for custom loop. If you have the space to go with thicker rads (especially a thick radiator with push/pull fans), then I'd do a cost analysis on that because more fin area always helps with heat dissipation.

For me, there's only really two pumps to chose from, D5 variants or DDC variants. There's plenty to read about online about the choice between them, but I'd say unless you're constrained for space, get yourself a D5. They're powerful, quiet, and there's a ton of pump tops and reservoirs for them.

For fittings, I recommend compression fittings just because they look nice, and are potentially more secure than barb/clamp style ones. But either way you need to be making clean, even cuts with a sharp tubing cutter to prevent leaks. For compression fittings, make sure the threading is smooth and the knurling goes in one direction. Fittings that cross thread, and knurling that tears up your fingers make loop maintenance way harder than it needs to be. Make sure not to tighten fittings into your acetal block (or plastic other parts) too tightly, because you can (and with repeated reassembly, will) strip out the plastic.

As far as coolant, ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different opinions. Part of the equation is your tubing, and how you prep the system, so I'll cover that first. I recommend Primochill Advanced LRT tubing, because other types of tubing can contain plasticizers that can leach into your coolant and cause a murky, undesirable appearance. For system prep, you really only need to focus on the radiators. They often have residual flux or machine debris from construction, so the general consensus is to flush them with a 20% white vinegar/distilled water mix before use. Some people recommend just a flush, some recommend an overnight soak. It's your call, but very extended exposure to vinegar could (probably unlikely) damage the rads. I overnight mine, and they've always been fine.

If you want a colored system, the easiest way to do it is just with colored tubing and distilled water, with a silver piece in the loop for biological inhibition. Oxidation of your copper blocks is going to be inevitable, but fortunately it's really only an appearance problem. You'll probably have to disassemble and clean them down the road.

Now, I'm the type that likes clear tubing with colored coolant. But I'm also the type who's had to spend two days cleaning purple particulate matter out of their blocks, radiators, and reservoir ¯_(ツ)_/¯. That being said, the EK EKoolant Blood red that I've been using since then is the most stable (colored) pre-mixed coolant I've ever seen. Nice stuff.

The size of radiators you've picked should be more than enough, depending on how big you loop gets. I use my 280+140mm rads for essentially an FX-9590 and OC'ed R9 290X (read: HOT parts) and it's been fine.

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XSPC makes some decent fittings that are cheaper than most alternatives, i've been using their black chrome plated compression ones for over a year now with no issues I'd stay away from the super cheap stuff though.

Thanks for the awesome post!

About the silver anti-microbe part.. Couldn't that cause corrosion? Sorry if it's a stupid question....

As for res/pump

This is like $65

This is $150

Is the XSPC Photon worth it over the cheaper option? Would the cheaper res/pump combo be strong enough for 1x 240mm, 1x 360mm and the CPU/GPU block?

Silver actually can leave a protective coating on your other parts over time, silver is non corrosive.

put a hole in my xps (whatever it was called 240 cooler) traveling, so I replaced it with my old h100 corsair rad. just cut the lines off and plugged it into my loop. a year later I still have no issues... just make sure you nuke it

this is NOT a suggestion, this is just what I ended up doing just to see it would F anything up. just make sure you nuke the water. I would stick to everything copper though and don't go cheap on a watercooling unit if your going to buy it off the shelf. if its a project, yea its whatever. my copper block and gpu block are fine. ill eventually replace the rad..... one day, id rather buy a cool looking tek mat lol

Guys.

I bought an XSPC Photon 170 DDC -1T Plus 3.2.

Is this a good res/pump combo? I heard it runs a little hot? It was for $70 new.

The DDC is a good pump, should be fine for your needs.

It does run hotter than a D5, as the D5 is cooled by the fluid running through it, while the DDC needs to be cooled by heatsink or airflow. The heat from a D5 however, is transferred into the fluid, so it's not like that heat disappears. As long as your pump is mounted somewhere where it has air running past it, you'll have no issue. The DDC also has more head pressure than the D5, so it's better for loops with tight bends.

If you feel like heat might be a concern, plenty of companies make add-on heatsinks that will be compatible with any DDC pump. This one from EKWB is a typical example.

Also, the DDC being smaller makes it a bit more audible than the D5. But considering it's half the cost, that's a minor trade-off.

Let us know how the loop comes along once you get everything ready!

Just a not for anyone lurking, silver, copper, nickle can all run in the same loop. Most times when something corrosive happens in a pc is when copper and aluminum are in the same loop.

No matter the coolant used, if it is dyed, you will have your tubing slowly change colors. The only way to keep this from happening is to use glass.

And as a side note, never run a pump dry, as well as do a 12-24 hour leak test with hot wiring your psu with a jumper pin making sure everything but the pump is not powered.

To expound on this with even more materials science, galvanic reactions occur because of the dissimilarity between metals. Passersby can make use of this nice chart, keeping in mind that in the controlled conditions of a water cooling system a difference of about 0.30V on the anodic index is acceptable.

Make sure there's airflow around the pump and you'll be fine.

OP Note how the aluminum is a mile away from common loop metals .. Always avoid aluminum.

You guys rock. Roger! I'll avoid aluminum like the plague.

Just ordered Danger den UV black tubes and 10x XSPC compression fittings. I just need to decide on the radiators, now. I'm still shopping around for some good deals.

I have my custom parts in postage and after reading this thread I was wondering how you all flushed your radiators, is there a particulary good YouTube video or tutorial on it, and is it a nessesatiy?

Alphacool makes some very nice all copper rads.

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I use koolance products for my builds, check them out when you get a chance.

EDIT: I have only had one real issue with them and that was a pump that died on me tho I caught it before any damage was done.

READ THE WARRANTY

I think it's worth noting DDC and D5 pumps are all rebrands, they're the same regardless of who you get them from.

I just ordered XSPC 240mm and 360mm radiators. Those were the last parts i needed.

List of parts:
-XSPC Raystorm CPU copper/acetal block
-EK copper full cover GPU block
-10x XSPC chrome compression fittings
-XSPC Photon 170 DDC pump/res combo
-Barrow aluminum DDC pump heatsink (will not come into contact with the water)
-Danger den onyx black UV tubes+tube cutters(10ft)
-2x XSPC ex240 and ex360 rads
-Silver kill coil
-Purple LED bulbs
-XSPC ATX PSU Bridge Tool (I know... a paperclip would have done the job..)

Anything else i should get? I'm guessing i wont need a corrosion inhibitor? Chrome and copper is all good, right? Will distilled water and a silver kill coil be enough?