WASABI MANGO UHD420 - Where to buy? Perfect Pixel? What about AMH A399U/A409U?

Hey people :)

My graphiccard: GeForce GTX 770

Monitor 1: Asus VG248QE 1920x1080 144Hz (DVI)
Monitor 2: Dell S2330MX 1920x1080 60Hz (HDMI)

Now I am looking for a third, way bigger monitor/tv. I will use a monitor arm with the new one and hang it on the wall, so it shouldn't weigh too much.

It should be at least 46 inches large but it can be bigger, no problem. The resolution should be in 4K UHD and it should have a displayport, so I can use the 4K 60Hz with my computer.

My price range is around 600-700€ for 46" and up to 900-1000€ for 55", the rest somwhere in between.

I am living in Germany, so a possibility to buy it from here is inevitable and I want it to come with 2-3 years of guarantee, so I can exchange my model for a new one, in case it breaks (like amazon always offers).

I would really appreciate any ideas for tv's/monitors, cause when I am googling, I don't really come up with anything :(

Ahh, one last question: Is there a difference between a 50" UHD monitor and a 50" UHD tv, if I am connecting them to my pc?



I am sorry to push this, but I've searched the biggest 6 pages in Germany already and I found NO SINGLE tv or monitor 46 inch or bigger with displayport and 4K.

So I am kinda confused, am I missing something?!

I would really love help! :)

Does the 770 have HDMI 2.0? Because otherwise using it as a monitor isn't going to work well

the difference between a monitor and a TV is mostly latency, and the TV usually has speakers and the like.

This would probably be the one to get anyways, all you want to look for really is that it supports HDMI 2.0 and 4:4:4 Chroma, I don't think most TVs come with display port either

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Okay, tbh I thought that was quite a lot and after all the research I did already, I wasn't to crazy about reading all of it, but it was definetly worth my time!! Thank you very much!

So now I am looking for a screen with the following requirements:

46-55 inch
UHD 4K 60Hz

My graphic card only supports 4K via displayport. Which leads to two problems:

a) all monitors I saw stop at 42"
b) all tv's I saw don't have displayport

That kinda leaves me nowhere.

How to go about this?

Is it possible to switch from DP (graphic card) to HDMI 2.0 (tv) by now? I noticed his BLOG is 1 month old and he mentioned they should be out in one month.

Or can I get my HDMI 1.4 to display [email protected] with a HDMI 2.0 cable and some cheats?! :D

Thank you everyone, I really appreciate your help, I know that my wish is extraordinary and I know that if I would want a 40" or 42" monitor, I only have to look around in the forum and find several reviews/recommendations, but as it happens I want a 46"+ screen AND I don't have a HDMI 2.0 videocard, I know that sucks.

Maybe someone will be able to save me


There are some Active Display port to HDMI 2.0 adapters apparently, but most of them don't seem to really work at all

You should really just live with the 40" 4k monitor with display port, it'll save a ton of headache.

I understand, but I can always settle for a 40" and wait until a cheap offer appears in one of my local stores.

Until then I would really try to reach for bigger goals. I assume out of 6 billion people, there will be one with the same issue he has apparently already solved by finding the right adapter? :)

Possibly, but the market for people trying to run 4k TVs on older hardware is going to be pretty small, as TVs are meant to be TVs, so the 30hz 4k limit of HDMI 1.4 doesn't really matter all that much

Okay, sounds reasonable. What is the largest 4K UHD 60Hz 4:4:4 monitor with DP you can think of? Cause everything I found at this forum (used the search function for every size from 40 to 55) was 42".

Well I have no idea how well it works or if you can even get it but here

they make a 55" version of the Wasabi Mango, Price is 1000 USD


42" version seems to work well

That sounds awesome! And it's perfectly in my 1000€ range. Is newegg a trustful seller? I am used to amazon, they exchange defect items within 2 years without asking.

"Pixel Policy
1-4 defective pixels are allowed
Please be aware that dead pixels cannot be the reason for return/refund or exchange.
Backlight Bleeding Policy
Despite our strict testing standard, the item may have some backlight bleeding.
Please understand that backlight bleeding issues, unless very severe, will not be accepted as reasons to return."

This made me a bit worried.

Sadly I can't use freesync with NVIDIA tho, but I assume there isn't a cheaper model that just got rid of the freesync, is there? What does freesync do anyway? I never had a monitor with freesync, am I missing some quality my whole life?

Adaptive Sync displays make things much smoother for gaming, but I don't think the 55" version has it because it's listed Display Port 1.2, and not 1.2a

also I don't think Newegg ships internationally

and ya it's a "Korean Display" meaning it's cheap because they aren't the perfect quality displays from companies like LG, they're the rejects generally with one issue or another, but they work well enough to be repackaged and sold

though my korean 1440p works perfectly

Okay, I will have to check on the site if they ship to Germany. Or somewhere else to buy it. I just read an article here:

he mentioned that it had freesync.

Do you think it would be worth it to buy a new AMD graphiccard just for freesync, considering that my GTX 770 is about a year old and cost me 3-400€? I have no idea what freesync is, so I don't know if it's worth it.

Well if you wanna run games at 4k anyways you'd need a GPU upgrade, probably a 390 for performance per dollar, although at that point for the price of the 42" version you can get the new GPU with the 4k display at around $1000

Nvidia has G-sync but that requires a proprietary module that adds cost to the displays, nvidia could use free-sync as is, but nvidia seems to hate freedom

Well, thanks for the AMD recommendation, but I have just checked a GPU comparison and my actual chip is within the Top 25 of existing GPU's. I am not willing to buy hundreds of euros, just because NVIDIA thinks they don't have to support freesync. I haven't had freesync before anyway so I will just buy the 42" with freesync, use it without it and maybe in 2 years, when I get a new GPU I will take an AMD and enjoy freesync.

By the way. I am currently running a 23" monitor. I have just checked the size of a 55" one. I could never game on that one. My distance between me & the monitor is about 20 inches. I don't even know if I could handle 40 or 42". My starting idea was to get a big screen cause I watch a lot of Netflix (during brakes) and streams (twitch, youtube...) cause I make a living out of betting on games. But then I thought, maybe I could use it to play on it aswell, but that seems like a whole lot of wasted money. Maybe just get a regular 55" 4K tv, connect it via HDMI 1.4, have 4K UHD 30Hz and enjoy movies and livestreams at perfect quality for the following years?

Hisense HE58KEC730

What you think of that one? Do I have to check if it has 4:4:4 aswell? Cause I don't know where to find that. Or is that irrelevant when watching Netflix/Youtube/Twitch?

im currently waiting for the club3d Displayport 1.2a to HDMI 2.0 active adapter so i can get 4k at 60z on my 4k TV.


Something useful for your research: http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/

Thank you very much!

Sadly your list doesn't have all the tv's I find in my local onlinestores/amazon, but maybe I find one of those Excellent or Good ones, will see.

So basically, I can take any TV, aslong as it has UHD 4K, HDMI 2.0 & 4:4:4, I maybe get a chance that those adapters will deliver me [email protected], right? If not, I will just enjoy the tv shows. Or is there anything else to worry about when buying a new TV? Ohh and I never can seem to find the 4:4:4 or 4:2:0... ratio. Is there another word or something to call it? Cause I can't find it in the specs of the Tv's

color depth, usually chroma subsampling

Okay, where would I find that in the specs of a TV?

I got a few description menus:

  • Technical features
  • Picture
  • Reception
  • Equipment
  • Sound
  • Extensions and Connections
  • General features
  • Energy consumption

In "Picture" I found those:

  • Tru Ultra HD Engine, Tripple XD Engine, 4K Resolution Upscaler, Natural Color, HEVC (H265) Decoder, H264 Decoder
  • Ultra Clear, UHD Upscaling, Nano Crystal Color, Wide Color Enhancer (Plus)
  • Pixel Plus Ultra HD, Micro Dimming, Ultra Resolution

Is it any of those? Cause I checked your link and I only says that it's sometimes reffered to as RGB, but I can't seem to find that either.

this one?

wont usually find it unless you are reading the manual or something. check for reviews the tv you're interested in on A/V forums.

i'll admit it's very confusing and im sure as hell not an expert. but i do see the difference between 4:4:4 and 4:4:2 when i change the settings on my video card, the 4:4:2 looks more washed out.