I now understand the demand of a video editing machine when you're piling up with tons of hd clips. I'm experiencing some stuttering problems whenever I playback the clip I'm working on to check if it's correct. I'm using adobe premier pro cc trial. I have a separate wd caviar blue for the cache files yet I'm still having some stuttering, so I end up rendering the project to watch it smoothly, I don't mind long encoding as long as the actual process of making the video is smooth. Based on how I see it I need an ssd to do the file caching or use the ssd for OS then make the os drive do the file caching. Any thoughts on this? maybe you have know alternative solutions?
My specs:
A8 6600k, 8gb of 2133 tactical tracer, 500gb caviar blue on os, 1tb caviar blue for the premier pro file cache. My full specs is in my profile.
Video editing is like one of those needy girlfriends that always wants more (sorry needy girlfriends). With only 8Gb of ram, even though its fast....its not enough. I would look at jumping up to 16Gb if your going to be doing alot of hd video editing. SSD's will help as well especially if you use a small one as a "scratch" disk.
A caviar BLUE drive is a pretty slow drive, I would use at least a WD Black drive, the Black 2 hybrid is pretty mean as well, and uses SSD as a caching system, and appears as a single drive, while balancing everything out between the two by itself. Also, if you are heavy into video editing, if you can afford to, jump to an Intel system, you WILL see a HUGE difference between the two systems, if you cannot afford to, your AMD will do the job, just not near as efficiently (it all comes down to bandwidth and instructions per clock). Also, more ram would benefit you greatly. These are just a few suggestions, not trying to start a flame war with AMD fanboys (for those who wish to argue AMD is "Just as good", how many AMD based servers have you seen?). Intel is a workhorse, AMD is a cheap processor that does ok with single tasks like playing a game, browsing the net, etc., but only one thing at a time. Adobe premier will take advantage of all the power available to it, and runs best with 3GB RAM PER CORE. Also, GPU rendering is much faster than CPU rendering if you can afford a good NVidia Card (for the CUDA cores, they DO make a huge difference).
Really, if you are going to be doing a fair bit of HD video editing I'd recommend an entirely new build all together. While RAM and multiple SSDs will help responsiveness somewhat the fact of the matter is you have an APU, not the best option for video editing, and a slower one at that. A new CPU and especially a dedicated GPU (CUDA/OpenCL) will give you better performance.
Well to start off with the Caviar Blue and Caviar Black are pretty similar. Both run at 7200 RPM and have the same amount of cache. The Black is just validated for longer life and reliability and comes with a longer warranty to reflect that. While some may claim it is faster it really isn't. Even if it was the speed difference between the two would be negligible and really not do much to help him. The Hybrid drives are nice and easy and can improve speed but if you are using it for a scratch disk than a true SSD will be the best option, multiple SSDs in RAID even better. Way better than a hybrid drive.
Not trying to start anything here either but you yourself sound like an Intel fanboy.
No just "jumping to Intel" won't solve all of his problems. He could get a Pentium and it would be the same or slower than his current rig.
I'm not sure what you mean by "efficiency" either. Yes the AMD parts have better IPC but that actually isn't very important in video editing. Bandwidth? Wut? Are you referring to PCIE 2.0 on AMD as compared with 3.0 on Intel? A modern day GPU can't even fully use a X8 PCIE 2.0 lane so that is a moot point. RAM channels? Both AMD and Intel use two channels for RAM. Only the LGA2011 (X79/X99) parts will use quad channel RAM which yes will make a difference but the price difference between an LGA 2011 system and an AMD or hell even an Z97 rig is massive.
Actually the AMD Opterons are quite popular in quite a quite a few servers and even supercomputers....
AMD can only do one thing at a time? Wut again. AMD CPUs, particularly the 8 core parts, do a very good job at multitasking. Running VMs and the like. Video editing. An 8350, especially with an OC, is really damn good at these tasks. An 8350 will beat a 4690k- i5, usually, in video editing and rendering. They are usually faster than even a 4820k in these tasks and to paraphrase Logan while he was talking about his 4930k and H.264 encoding "Hell, this little 8 core gives that thing a run for its money."
Yes Premier loves RAM that is true.
Yes GPU rendering will be a better option. Not necessarily nVIDIA though. Premier can use both CUDA and OpenCL on Windows now. Usually OpenCL is faster. Plus an AMD card, which will destroy a nVidia card in OpenCL performance, is usually cheaper and faster in game then the equivalent nVidia card.
Not even an AMD fanboy here. I have an 8350, a Xeon 1230V3, and a laptop with an i7-4500U in it currently. I am running a GTX 780 (soon to be replaced with a 290X though) and a GTX 760. I have also had a 3570k and a 2500k in the past with several AMD cards including the 7870 and 7950. I'm just talking from my first hand experience.
As of this time I don't think I need a new CPU. Better CPUs are useful for fast rendering, also I'm only working on 720p contents most of the time, my concern is the stuttering on the video editing process, where a lot of slicing and effects manipulation takes hardcore performance hit on my system. I think I'll go for the SSD route and more ram for now. Thanks,