Vega64 vs rx580 gaming in arch

So with the new steamplay I am able to play a few of the games I stopped playing when I switched back to manjaro a year or so ago.
Problem is my 380x doesn’t cut it.

Question is for 1080p gaming is it worth forking out for a Vega instead of a 580?

It depends on what games you play I guess. You dont get windows performance levels.

Myself, I run an RX 480 and its great. The open source driver is really starting to mature.

However my games are turn based(Civ V & VI, Xcom2, etc), RTS, and some more action games like Tomb Raider. Just bought Rise of the Tomb Raider (not played it yet).

But I must admit after the 20xx Nvidia cards come out I will be looking for cheap Vega 64 buys for perhaps some pass through tinkering.

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my game library is very scattered hahah. At the moment i am playing ark and 7 days to die and will probably finish the stick of truth now that steamplay is out.

Honestly any decent card is good enough anymore for Linux. There’s not as much variance. A Vegan 64 will perform better but whether or not you can truly tell the difference is certainly something to bring to question. I stopped caring about GPUs a long time ago lol. Ever since I’ve started programming and compiling software more and more and gaming less and less they’ve become less relevant so I’m not exactly the person to ask

Edit. Leaving that typo

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I for one am perfectly happy with the Asus rog swift vega 64 8bg oc (did I get that right?), I specially like how it’s completely silent during normal use.

vega 64 can out perform the 1080 in some cases and the 580 cannot no matter how much we want it to. thats about the only difference that matters as both work well and are mostly stable ( odd outliers occur same for windows)

I should think that these days, in general, Vega will outperform the 1080, due to driver optimization and such. I’ve even heard that, on occasion, it can rival the 1080TI.

Them again, I haven’t really made a great effort investigating the subject. Just didn’t want to support a company that don’t want to support me.
To be blunt, my choice was ideolistic, if that’s even a word.
Sure, Nvidia has better hardware, for now, but that is the only positive, which simply isn’t enough when there are perfectly sound alternatives.

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I’ve had both an RX480 and Vega 64 (2x in current box - first one was an upgrade, second one i got cheap and mined with it a bit).

RX480 (580) has more mature driver support and if you’re doing 1080p60 is much cheaper and will do the job.

So - i’d get a 580 for 1080p60 and put the extra money away for the next card (Navi or Vega 20, etc.).

Vega is faster sure, but the drivers are more of a pain and its really overkill for 1080p just yet.

edit:
Turn on HDR and Vega vs. Pascal becomes a lot more sided towards Vega. Speculation is that the NV colour compression doesn’t work with HDR and Pascal runs into bandwidth limits. Vega has significantly more bandwidth than Pascal in general.

The drivers are my main concern but leaning towards Vega purely to half future proof not that it’s really a thing.

Maybe I should buy a rtx like Tom’s hardware says I should.

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Played both of thosee games on linux with a vega 64. Ran fine 1440p.

If you’re not a true comrade and your babushka doesn’t love you, you could get a 1080ti instead.

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Is that the case in Linux? Most benchmarks i found say Vega 64 is around 10-15% less performance than a 1080. While (at least in Germany atm) it’s around 20% more expensive?
I’d be highly interested in this as I’m planning out my Upgrade and the 1080 currently is at the top of the list. If drivers under Linux make the Vega 56 or 64 perform equal or better i might switch to AMD…

I don’t know where you’ve been, update to kernel 4.17+, opensource driver, and mesa, and away you go.

Yeah I have heard myself that the 4.17 drivers made a massive improvement.

I know your joking because getting Twerkworks ray tracing will be on arch linux next century via next gen vm’s :slight_smile:

Joking aside if your running bleeding edge the open source drivers. AMD are fixing Vega, Indeed Polaris cards are working well. Still freesync etc is still coming :slight_smile:

If I had the money Id buy vega…because I dont buy a video card often…My history in the last 10 years I believe is GTX670, RX480 and now cause I’m an a Linux whore and want to tinker Im thinking of a VEGA card as a another card in the same machine.

Im gaming great however. And if AMD keep the commitment to open source I cant see myself not supporting them.

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If you don’t care about open source drivers NVIDIA will normally always beat AMD in Linux performance. They are basically the same drivers as the Windows ones.

Just about any benchmark will back this up except in couple of properly optimized games like DOTA2.

Feral and Asper really only support NVIDIA with their ports so it can be a crapshoot if the game will run at all.

Ill hold you to Linux RTX game performance :slight_smile:

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-gtx1070-ti&num=6

1070ti beats it in most cases and so does the 1080. Pretty sure it will hold true with RTX.

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I will bow to your wisdom and let time play it out. Door stop 1 year from now when RTX 3080Ti is out. On Arch

With what is currently availablea 1070ti seems like the best bang for buck on Linux tbh.

Keeping it simple. The RTX chip is custom, filled with RX cores and tensor cores that every game on the planet does not use except a few nvida sponsored windows games.

On linux arch so far a total waste of silicon unless Nvidia anounce linux gaming with RTX is awesome ?