Full30 is one such platform, though I haven’t been on in a while i may have to log back in.
I can only vote with my wallet (and ad-blocker)
Yes I actually didn’t block youtube ads cause I love the place.
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I completely disagree. They’re 100% in it to educate people on the merits of socialism.
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I hadn’t considered that. You may be on to something!
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Also, learned the other day that Vimeo is starting to snag up some youtubers. Interesting, but don’t know if that will go anywhere.
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There is the problem. The number of users that care enough about guns to ditch YouTube aren’t a very significant market percentage, so even if they did organize it would likely have no impact. And while I really don’t like YouTube for doing this type of thing I don’t care near enough about guns to be outraged by this beyond the principle of targeted takedowns but I’m not even too upset about that because it is a privately owned platform.
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Also, part of the problem with these firearms related channels jumping off YouTube is still going to be money related. They rely on the ad money too, at least in part but probably more than that. They still need to get paid on whatever new platform they land on. Most of the audience isn’t going to be willing to directly pay for content.
The thing with publicly traded companies is that every penny counts, so if the loss of pissed off gun enthusiasts > loss of keeping gun content they’ll keep it. This is all pretty kneejerk and we may see a reversal to this particular incident.
As an avid firearms owner/shooter I can still say it’s their site, their rules. Censorship is still censorship, and this is 100% politically motivated. Google/Alphabet/Youtube are leftist companies that push agendas. It just so happens that ban everything firearms has momentum and Alphabet is just doing their part.
This is flat out not true, good content will always attract paying users. You yourself are a patron to L1 and the patreons to a lot of firearm YouTubers are doing quite well.
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On this specific indecent maybe, the overall trend? not a chance. Look at what has been happening to the not utter clickbait cancer side of the gaming community on YouTube, the closing of many channels and complete loss of income and crushing their veiwcounts through manipulating the algorithm.
I disagree. The ratio of paying versus non-paying viewers is going to greatly favor non-paying. Granted, most of the non-paying viewers probably aren’t blocking ads, so in effect they are paying indirectly. But if the channel moves to an ad free paid platform how many from their previous audience is going to follow?
If they thought they were safe from the algorithm they were wrong, I’d have to say the gaming side of YouTube is over saturated and it’s not surprising a lot of them are hurting. The most successful ones rely on Patreon rather than adsense.
@marasm a channel can still be supported by a small number of patrons and many YouTubers have outright said AdSense is straight up chump change. Hell InRangeTV turned off it’s AdSense account and is entirely supported by patrons. For the likes of LTT and L1 I don’t see why they wouldn’t turn down free money but it’s not supporting the channel (maybe @wendell wouldn’t mind chiming in) shameless tag
Heck Floatplane is a thing because people will pay.
I’d say nearly every side of YouTube is over saturated imo. However many of the channels I’m referring to are highly successful channels with 1 million+ subscribers. but you missed the point. the point isn’t that these channels are hurting it’s that the community around them has been pissed off for quite a while and YouTube hasn’t rolled back anything.
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Seeing as pornhub is such a poor option in itself, I can totally see them seizing the opportunity and creating a new platform, under a new name and entity, and use their back end infrastructure to support it.
innuendos sort of intended maybe
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Maybe im thinking about this wrong but IMO this is good. YouTube has been on a downward trend for a while and this will only serve to open up the market for existing/new platforms. Theres still tons of great content on youtube but what youtube needs is competition. People moving to pornhub might be a bit of a joke but what if pornhub started another platform to take on youtube? They couldnt afford to keep shitting on the creators like they are. Losing viewership is bad for the creator but also pretty bad for youtube.
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That’s where I’m putting any content we I put out.
My fear is only the hard core users will use it and the platform will suffer because of it.
Which is why the creators themselves need to work very hard to let their audience know the options. If they decide to start posting elsewhere they need to make that very clear many times over. That’s the only way a competitor can rise up.
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