Spatry on youtube has been doing a lot of vids on Manjaro. I like the pacman CLI it seems more compact less to remember. Rolling release.
I have seen a few vids on Ubuntu Mate and I like the one click and install Steam skype and a few other programs.
Each OS has things I like. If I install Arch and Mate will I get the one click Install from the store or is that something that is just on Ubuntu Mate.
I am not looking for the power user OS just a Linux OS that I can get into and learn. It looks like I can do everything I want with just Linux using Play on Linux and what is packaged with a distro.
I know Linux users like the CLI but with my brain being messes up and memory not working as well as it should. I am looking for a Linux that is more point and click so I can slowly learn what I need to know and then when I feel comfortable expand and see what other OSs are out there. These are the ones I have tried Mint Mate 13 Ubuntu Unity the same time period as Mint 13 Ubuntu Mate And I have tried the lighter weight like Xbuntu and Kbuntu as well as the Mint version.
I am looking for Stable Ease of use Great Help Online Very Good Youtube vids to learn from.
If you are looking for stable and ease of use then you should stick to Ubuntu. Its also one of the most supported distro's out there. The rolling release concept is a good one always have up to date packages but that doesn’t always mean stable sometimes things break. Manjaro at its core is an easy to use Arch based system and the wiki is pretty solid but when it comes to helpful videos on how to install different software its usually done for Ubuntu or Ubuntu based distros. And Ubuntu dose have a pretty robust software centre that can work pretty well.
I like the Mate, I call it the store where you can get all the software to download.
Looks like I will go with ubuntu mate to start get things working learn how the CLI works at my own pace. This will be a clean install on a new hard drive. I will just take out the windows hard drives and keep those in case I need something form them.
I was wondering about something. I us skype to take to friends when i game. Can you make a VM with a new install of ubuntu and put skype on there so he can have its own little jail to stay in and leave the rest of my pc alone? Or is linux skype different then windows skype?
Ubuntu is a distro made by Canonical. Its stock D.E (Desktop Enviornment) is Unity which is somewhat of a modernized desktop with borrowed features from the GTK+ (Gimp Toolkit) from the GNOME project.
Manjaro on the other hand is an Arch Linux based Distro. (It borrows features from Arch Linux) so that comes with its simplicity and ease of use. Also its use of pacman (the Arch Linux package manager) Ubuntu use 'aptget'.
As for what seperates them? Honestly it comes to support, available applications within the package manager and how packages are maintained. (For example i believe AMD's drivers are an absolute mess on Ubuntu) wheras on Manjaro / Arch Linux it works fine.
Overall people that tend to stray away from Ubuntu because it's maintained by a massive company known as Canonical and most people who support the open source movement and community tend to stay away from big companies.
Also it's worth noting that stock Ubuntu has some privacy invading features.. Which is built into Unity (Ubuntu's stock Desktop) wheras Arch Linux / Manjaro is more based and thrives off of Community support. Which is also very maintained via the Arch Wiki.
Will Ubuntu Mate have the same problems of belonging to Canonical and may have security leaks / spying ?
I want to get out of windows cuz of them spying on my pc. I do not want to replace one spy with another ever if they did it less then windows.
If i can install these programs on Manjaro I would be happy. I like the Pacman commands and the rolling release. Steam GOG Skype (on VM = jail cell ) I have seen Skyrim installs with Play on Linux and It look not so difficult. I like Opera but do not know how much is spies / so any open source browser will do is Fire Fox open and free of spying? Most of my games are on Steam and linux download ( I do not know if I can take my windows purchased games and install them on linux ) Minecraft The only other game I play is Armored Warfare but I can leave that. Wine might have an install for that. How hard is it to install the Nvidia drivers with Manjaro?
The only other thing is how does Manjaro handle syncing a Windows Phone this is not a big deal I keep my phone separate for the most part just need to put music on it once in a while.
And can I download a good music player.
Sorry just putting down my thoughts as they come to my head. Have a day
Most of the applications you list should work and yes if a steam game supports Linux you can play it no mater where you purchased it from. I would say firefox is pretty free of spying or at the very least significantly less then chrome. Graphics card drivers are always a tricky thing in Linux no mater the distro. Take it slow and read the wiki on that. There are a tone of music players for Linux it just a mater of taste. Minimal music players that come to mind would be Audacious, DeadBeef, gmusic browser, and Rhythmbox, Heavery weight music players would be Banshee, Clemintine, and Rhythmbox with pluggins, Cli music players that come to mind are cmus, Ncmpcpp with MPD. Some other music players I never tested would be lollypop and gnome music player
You should be able to check for any sort of spying, but I don't believe the MATE people do that to their users.
I would recommend getting familiar with finding stuff in Synaptic, handy that and works on everything. You can install the Ubuntu Software Center and any other Software Tool that any of the other Distros use from Ubuntu (even debian?) platforms.
Yeah Manjaro is quite good, however their included drivers can get out of date fast as it takes them time to interrogate them. Plus I bet they have nothing for AMD yet? no latest AMD-PRO, it was hacked to work for ARCH not long ago.
I have an old gtx 560 card so I am hoping that it is supported
Just burned the Manjaro disk will give a try and see how it goes. Then I just need to purchase a new hard drive and install and play. See where it goes from there
Thanks for the input. The more info the better. Is there a site that I can print the pacman commands and what they do.
The other question do I partition the drive myself or just let the program do it.
I have two old 80 gb hard drive will that be big enough to do testing on. Do and full install updates check out game downloads small games and make sure drivers work. Then I can have one for Manjaro and one for Ubuntu Mate
When I was running off the CD image Manjaro I was not getting any sound to my usb logitech headset or to my tv via hdmi from the gtx 560 audio.
Will these problems be fixed when I do full install with drivers.
The ubuntu amazon searches are disabled by default in 16.04 so its time for people to stop with the ubuntu spying thing ( for now at least ) Ubuntu is a decent Distro
Having said that if you like the easy install of software then i think Manjaro has ubuntu beat. Not only that whilst your running a broken out of date version of Skype you could just search the Manjaro/Arch AUR and install Ghetto-skype which fixes up a lot of the issues, thats not to say you can't make build or compile the same software on ubuntu but typically ((if your not that way inclined or a re not ready to start doing this )) then someone has already done this in the AUR.
People say why not just use arch ? Well manjaro has around a 2-3 week window of update staging where in theory these updates have been tested pre-hand, its that staging and the more ready to go out of the box approach that gives it a big edge for the typical user over standard Arch. Manjaro has worked on their GUI installers to include make that part super easy too.
Thanks for the input and the info. Looks like I will be going with Manjaro. Will do an install on a 80 gb hard drive, this is all i have right now will purchase a 480 gb ssd or 1 tb hard drive later.
More info I need how does Manjaro handle ssd. The ssd will most likely be Crucial BX 200 or Kingston Hyper X Savage.
When I get my better Hard drive how can I transfer all the work I did on the 80 gb to the new hard drive, or is it better to just do a fresh install and setup for learning.
It should handle the ssd like any other drive. But if it is a new bear drive you might have to set it up manualy. I usually set up a drive like so 10gb root 5gb tmp 5gb var 2gb swap optional if you have 8gb or more ram it might not be necessary and then the rest of the space goes to the home partition When you get the ssd it would be best to reinstall and back up the files on the old drive documents video etc and then transfer them over.