The additional 32GB of RAM probably wouldn't make as much of a difference as the improvement in frequency and potential overclock ability.
Sure if you dont need 64GB, then you can just pick 1800X.
Thats also what i mean.
But still the 1800X is most likely not going to be that mindblowingly better then a 1700X.
Overclock potential, maybe, maybe not, matter of silicon luck.
I should imagine the only difference between the 1700X and the 1800X will be the binning. So presumably the 1800X will be more likely to overclock better. But you might be right. The only way to know for sure will be to see the 3rd party benchmarks and tests
Yeah there might be binning, or there might be not.
Thats the question, however its allways a matter of luck.
Of course 200mhz on the base could be called significant at some degree.
But wenn it comes to overclock potential its all yet to be seen how far those chips can be pushed.
I mean there trully isnt much to say about that yet.
But never the less if you use a system for productivity workloads,
and it has to be reliable 24/7.
Then i dont think that you would like to push the cpu to its max overclocks anyways.
But instead just take a safe 24/7 middle number.
Okay. I stand corrected.
Now it's: Xeon on 2011v3 has ECC with quad channel.
I will likely stick the CPU and possibly GPU under water at some point. But also, surely the reliable overclock will be higher on a CPU that can overclock more?
I won't be buying anything until there are a good few reviews and in-depth tests so it is probably too early to settle on one CPU specifically yet.
Obviously, I do hope the cheaper CPU can overclock and run just as well as the 1800X but there must surely be a bigger difference between the two CPUs than a few hundred MHz clock speed
Yeah i think to really get support for ECC functionality on socket 2011-3 in particular.
You still gonne need a C612 chipset board i think.
Unless iĀ“m wrong, but then somebody will correct me on it.
THere are a couple of X99 boards from Asrock and Asus that do list support for ECC dimms.
So if you install a Xeon on it, you might exally get ecc functionality.
Wenn benchmarks are out, you can see which system would fit your needs best.
But i think that the 1700X and 1800X would be both good choices.
Of course if your budget is large enough to get the 1800X then sure why not.
The price diffrence isnt that massive.
That is incorrect.
Well you COULD do 4 x 16 Gigabytes of RAM. Depending on the programs used that might not be a good idea.
Let me stress: I did not say "you HAVE to use 2 DIMMs because it is dual channel". If I meant that, I would have said that.
Why not? It would still be dual channel.
Sorry. I still had the quad channel Xeon in mind at that post.
On second thought: Really spoke out of my butt there.
Memory bandwith is the same with 2 or 4 modules installed (provided that is done correctly)
Load on the memory controller is higher though if using 4 modules
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ECC functionality will work on X99 but only with a Xeon installed. But, Socket 2011-v3 is a different socket in the regard that both X99 I7 cpus and Xeon cpus both work in that socket, whereas AM4 is consumer grade only. AMD's opteron line uses LGA sockets, so there will not be Opteron compatibility in AM4 if AMD stays true to precedent and doesn't release a PGA Opteron which seems the most likely option. That would indicate Ryzen having ECC support, as only Ryzen and 7th gen APU's will use AM4 for now.
Keep in mind this wouldn't be the first time AMD has released consumer grade cpus with ECC support, and not really mentioned or advertised it. The FX line on AM3+ all supported ECC, but it was up to the motherboard vendors to enable functionality on the motherboard side. If Ryzen is alike to the FX series on AM3+, they're just the server chips at a lower bin being reused for consumer sale. Frankly its not very far fetched at all... Fingers crossed ECC is in fact supported. If it is supported, I suspect it'll be like the Xeon E3 lineup and FX Series on AM3+, only supporting of ECC Unbuffered and not supporting Registered ECC which is usually reserved for the multi-cpu capable server platforms from Intel and AMD alike.
I still not sure that ecc functionality will work on X99 based chipset boards.
Only on C612 boards.
Atleast i have read something like that.
But that could of course be wrong.
Some X99 boards do in fact support ECC, such as the X99-E WS From Asus which even validates for ECC RDIMM as well as ECC UDIMM
Well thats pretty much the only board then i think.
Other boards do support is such as the AsRock WS X99 boards, and even some of Asus's non-WS boards like the Deluxe II which pudget systems confirms does un-officially work with ECC Registered here:
unofficially also works with ECC Registered memory which is available in higher capacities
AsRock confirms ECC Unbuffered and Registered works on their QVL Memory list for their X99 WS-E/10G here:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/X99%20WS-E10G/?cat=Memory
The DDR4 ECC, un-buffered memory/RDIMM is supported with IntelĀ® XeonĀ® processors E5 series in the LGA 2011-3 Socket.
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Ryzen itself does support ECC (but not the APUs) I can't remember where I could the confirmation but I am sure it was confirmed. But as you said it will depend on the MOBO manufacturers. I think we will indeed have a similar situation to AM3 where it is technically supported but almost no MOBO companies will bother with it. But let's hope there are at least some good boards that do support it.
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Yeah well i have read an article somewhere i cant really remember.
But ECC memory allthough support on Asus and Asrock X99 boards.
the error correcting functionality didnt seem to work.
However it could be that they have might tried it with an i7 instead of Xeon, iĀ“m not sure there.
Which in that case it of course makes sense, because ecc functionality wont work with an i7.
I think that Linus also has tested this once.
I disagree; it's a luxury most do not need or want.