To ECC or to not ECC. That is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to wait

I'm planning on a new PC build this summer. Ryzen 1700X most likely assuming the reviews stay strong.
However, I would mostly use the PC as a workstation. CAD (Solidworks), circuit design (Multisim and eagle) and coding (everything from Python to TIA Portal). For several of these applications, ECC is recommended and I would really like to get an 8 core monster with a big old pile of ECC RAM.
Ryzen does officially support ECC, however, no motherboards have been announced to support it. So, should I continue to wait in the hopes a company announces an ECC mobo? Or set my sites on a Xeon build?

BTW, my budget will likely be around £2000-2500. Including multiple monitors and other peripherals. But not a GPU or OS.

Just because there isn't any official support for ECC doesn't mean that boards won't support it. So I'd wait and see if the boards support it or not once they come out or if you need it sooner just get what you know will work.

If the CPU and the chipset really support ECC, I would bet ASRock and Asus will come out with a WS board at some point.

But do you ACTUALLY need it? Since you mention CAD, have a look at this article: http://blog.grabcad.com/blog/2015/08/13/why-ecc-ram-matters/

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I'm also interested in ECC, but so far there has been no boards that support it. Maybe there will be some info after launch.
I emailed Asrock Rack and asked if they would do a Rack AM4 board. The response was that they are looking into it, maybe planning one, but would not give me any real info.

We'll have to be patient, I guess.

There will be Zen technology with ECC when Naples releases. Probably later this year.

I just preordered the Asus Prime X370 Pro and will be cancelling my ASRock preorder because of some features. And I found something while looking at the german and english specs. This might be interesting or just an error.

English specs: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/specifications/
German specs: https://www.asus.com/de/Motherboards/PRIME-X370-PRO/specifications/

Look under memory (of course).

Thanks for all the input.

@Dexter_Kane, I did think that might be a possibility. If there still isn't any affordable boards with official support by about August I will definitely look into unofficial support.

@Bek, NEED is probably a strong word. But for all the things I will be doing with this PC, it is highly recommended to a lot of the things I will be doing over the next 5-10 years.

I did see, I think an Asrock board that on their website said supported ECC RAM but on any distributor's site said it didn't. So with that board, we might have to wait and see.

Maybe we will just have to wait for snowy owl for our Ryzen ECC fix. but I was hoping for supporting boards earlier.
We will likely just have to wait and see.

Thanks again
Ed

Everyone needs ECC RAM, it's just that some people haven't realized it yet :-)

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Well would you really need ECC on comsumer grade platforms?
I personally dont think so.
Ecc is more a thing for servers on which allot of data gets tranfered on a daily base.

The ASRock AM4 boards support ECC.

Do you have a source for that? That'd be cool to see.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Specification

Yeah, that was the board I referred to earlier. However, if you look at any shop selling the board it says it does not support ECC. So I don't know which is correct. Maybe it will be cleared up after release and people can test it

What does qualify as "a big pile of ECC RAM"?

If you want 64 Gigabytes of RAM you will be looking at 32 Gigabyte DIMMs since Ryzen is only Dual Channel. If you want that you might as well just get ECC because there is no price difference for theses modules.

X99 / Xeon processors offer 4 memory channels. These are probably better if you want 128 Gigabytes of RAM.

Yeah but X99 doesnt support ECC.
That consumer grade motherboards lists support for ecc modules,
basicly means that if you install ecc memory modules that the board would work with them.
But using ecc dims on a X99 board is pretty much pointless.
Because the ecc functionality wont work as far as i know.
I think that ecc functionality only works on C-series chipset boards on the intel side of things.

How this will be with AM4 and the current consumer grade chipset,i dont know yet.
But i suppose that it might be a similar scenario.

I would email ASRock direct. Retail level tech support isn't what it once was.

I'd have no idea how you could test ECC TBH... Apart from firing a beam of neutrons or taking a blow torch to the DIMM's maybe.

Anyone know of a tool to check ECC?

Ideally, I would want 32+, 64 if I can afford it. But realistically if I have to choose between an 1800X and an extra 32GB of RAM, more CPU would be better.
Also, although X370 is dual channel there are plenty of 4DIMM MOBOS around

Yeah, that's probably a good idea. See if I can get it from the horse's mouth as it were.

Why not pick a 1700X and put 4x16GB modules if you trully need that large amount of memory?

I mean a 1700X is arround $100 to $150,- cheaper then the 1800X.
With just a 200mhz clock diffrence pretty much.
Do you really think that those 200mhz base clock diffrence would hurt you that much in overall productivity workloads?