So I've seen some news about the 980 Ti not supporting asynchronous compute or something, which is a 'big' deal for DX 12. I am literally about ~1 week from buying an MSI GTX 980 Ti Gaming 6G, so naturally I'm wondering if this is a big enough thing that I should just hold off. Right now I'm going through Witcher 3 on a 560 Ti (2GB) and while it's not unplayable, there is certainly a lot of room for improvement.
Ask yourself;
"Will I suffer without unquestionable DX12 support? Will games support DX11 for the lifespan of my purchase?"
Chances are no, and yes. nVidia will probably patch something together to give them some semblance of DX12 and Asynch support, and if they don't then I doubt you'll really find much reason to complain about the performance. Especially if you're coming from a 560 Ti.
Just keep in mind that nVidia now has a track record of intentionally gimping last-gen GPUs with driver updates. While they are still making improvements on the 980 Ti, that may end when the next-gen hits shelves.
I think the better thing to ask yourself is "Do I need a 980 Ti?"
A 970 or 980 on the nVidia side or 390 or Fury for AMD may be more than enough. That way if something does happen with the nVidia GPUs and DX12 you won't be out as much money.
If i could ever give you something to live by and it's a quote by Linus. it's,
Don't buy graphics cards over $400 dollars. if you do, you're essentially doing it for bragging rights, cause you are getting less for your dollar..
follow through with that. get an R9-390 it will be a massive upgrade in performance. and you'll be just fine with all your games. a 980ti is incredibly un-neccessary. it's almost like getting a sledgehammer to nail something in the wall when a regular sized hammer will do the job just fine.
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Well I have a 980ti and I think it was the best investment I've made in a while. Sure somthing will come along in a year that will be 5% or more better blah blah blah. But it has a ton or power and lots of Vram for 1440p gaming and will last me a good long while. My main thing I can say it take all this DX12 stuff with s grain of salt. DX12 games aren't even going to be main stream for at least a year. People are making way to many assumptions and all the AMD neck beards are coming out of the woods because of this. (No I don't hate AMD. I really like them) Anyways I would say get it. Very good card and it's the best one at the moment other then the Titan x.
Don't get a 980 Ti unless you're someone with special interests in the hardware.
There isn't much point on going above 400 dollars, especially now as 16nm greenland and pascal are looming above us with 100% increases in performance compared to what we have today.
What I do suggest doing though is nabbing another 560ti used to SLI the two..
On a side note all maxwell based GPUs are going to get stomped hard once DX12 hits properly compared to GCN based cards, as DX12 removes a lot of driver bottlenecks and favors parallel computing more than DX11.
I cannot recommend anything at that price they are asking for a 980ti.
The max I would spend and have spent on a GPU is €300~ absolute max of 350 if it is really worth it but I have never found a card that is. As above so below, I also would recommend the R9 390 for a great many reasons that I will not get into but at the base of it. That is all the power you should really need, the gap is not massive and shrinking all the time. And while you cannot take that DX12 benchmark at face value it has at least proven that regardless of the final outcome there is a gain to AMD card coming.
No. False. The question is not that. The question couple of months ago was do I really need 4 gigs of Vram, when 3,5 is enough. The question in the meantime was does it really matter that the Gsync laptop don't use Gsync if they do the same job.
In all those cases the question should be why did they lied to the costumers.
I would not buy Nvidia for the reason of them repeatedly lying to the public. I do not support this kind of business decisions and I will not buy Nvidia. Fury nonX and 390X are not that far off. And when DX12 games start to come out, may be next year, AMD GPU's will be more prepared and you would not have to buy new one to use all features. And the test, that is currently available shows exactly that. 980 beating 390X on DX11, 390X beating 980 on DX12. So I would go AMD for that reason.
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I never told them to buy nVidia. If you think for a second I was recommending the 980 Ti, read further into those questions.
And read this while you're at it:
Notice how little I care for nVidia. Try to be a bit less biased, but also make people question what's actually good for them. If someone wants a 980 Ti, let them want it but make them question WHY they want it. They might just find they wanted something else all along.
Edit: Funny how that quote is a reply I made directly to you in another thread.
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@Fouquin is the GPU enthusiast on the forum, you won't win an argument with him when it comes to discussing graphics cards. lol
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I dunno about that. @anon5205053 comes pretty close. I'd say in professional apps he's got more knowledge than I do. :P
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Yeah I see what you guys are saying.
I typically adopt the mentality that I will buy the best version of technology that I can at the time, which right now would be the 980 Ti. However, with all this DX 12 stuff, it's making me question whether the 980 Ti would be a smart purchase...I just hesitate to wait because I was originally going to be getting the 780 Ti and then I decided to wait for the 9xx. It's a vicious cycle.
The only thing about AMD is the TDP and noise are consistently higher, from what I've seen.
Yeah they do run a little warmer. That being said the Titan X/980 Ti is a pretty warm running card itself. Noise is totally down to the cooler. Stock coolers will be hot and loud. Most nonreference cards will be cool and quiet.
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GTX980Ti is the fastest single gpu on the market right now.
About DX12 its simply way to early to make any conclusions.
We have seen one game in Beta tested with DX11 vs DX12, and that particular game showed a nice jump in performance on AMD "If tose numbers are vallid"
And not realy a big jump for the Nvidia cards.
But like i said its way to early to make any factual conclusion on the whole thing.
I think that the 980Ti is still a great buy, and if you can afford it, and you want the best fps right now, then i would say why not?
But i also agree with @DerKrieger and @Kat, you could ask your self "would you realy need a 980Ti?"
That just highly depends on what is important to you.
How you like your games to be played, what res, and which settings etc.
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Does anyone think that all this info coming out about the lack of Async compute on the Maxwell gpus will cause the prices to fall soon on the 980(Ti)?
Not a chance that they will validate those claims with a price drop on that card.
As for OP- as others have stated, it depends on your needs. I assume you've done the research on what will work for you. I bought a refurbished UHD g-sync monitor when it was on sale, hence the 980 ti was for me (vram and gsync).
If you are considering freesync, a 390 or Fury/X is the obvious choice.
If I were you, I'd go AMD for performance/$. Don't mind the DX12 stuff for now, but in any case if youre playing any res under 4k, those should knock it out of the park. Even at 4k, they'll play acceptably (less fps), but beyond that is when you're getting into the 980 ti territory.
I'd say if you're gaming in 4k, go ahead. if not, then just go 980/970 & stuff that extra 200$ in your new 'monitor fund' jar.
keep away from newest GPU's let guys with a lot of cash buy them up.
The gains over $300 range GPU's (290x/390x/780ti/970) are very small (they are 'made' bigger than they actually are aka. Hype Train)
In most cases difference is 5-10FPS with FuryX/980Ti price tag of $600-850.
Overclocking those older gpu's can bring you to almost 4-6FPS difference in most cases.
While yes, its cool that you have the fastest card at the time, notice this... a year passes a new GPU is released... and 2016 is ought to be a big for gpu's both AMD and NV will go with HBM2 memory, both will be at 16nm arch. Both will run much cooler than current gen cards, and both will be at least 20-30% faster at least (if not more - due to gains of 16nm arch) and you'll have some dx12 games to play...
then again maybe just before release of new series of gpu's you'll find 980ti and fury x on ebay for $300 or less.
In the end, i think you'll get biggest bang for the buck jumping to amd390x or nv970 though it doesn't look like a really good deal from NV.
Id say get either a 390 or a gtx 970. You end up paying a lot for not that much of gains in the quality of gaming past that point. So unless you just got money to blow and want to go to 4k gaming resist the urge.
Well the 980Tis in Jayztwo cents video, compared very favourably (at least matching, and most often beating) to the dual 970SSC setup. With all cards in the benchmark being overclocked, and SLI scaling now is pretty good, so about double the performance for double the price makes sense. Not much of a premium there, really blew me away, now I realize that there is a reason people are buying the 980tis!
So yeah, if you need that much performance, consider it over two 970s, if you don't need that performance, consider something like a 970. Ignore the AMD offerings, AMD gets destroyed at the price point when you OC both sides (except maybe the 390, it maybe holds out, somewhat).