Time to upgrade my build and build a Battle Station

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I had lots of help with my build from you guys and for 3 years now Ive been using my TV as a monitor and playing at my coffee table on the couch. Well my computer is moved into my room now and hate playing on the floor so I haven't been playing games at all really for almost 7 months making me super depressed. Well its time to up grade my build and build a battle station to properly game just in time for MAD MAX the game never been so excited for a game.

Here is my current build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/StaticNoize/saved/sHnhP6
And here is 2 pictures

This is my upgrade parts list.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/StaticNoize/saved/2JXqqs
And here is the desk I think I like let me know if you know of a better one.
http://www.hayneedle.com/product/technimobililshapedglasscomputerdeskblackchrome.cfm?redirect=false&source=pla&kwid=Desks_RTAP019&tid=RTAP019-1&adtype=pla&kw=&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=RTAP019-1&gclid=COye3tX3gccCFdM8gQodyfwMdw

So tell me what you think I am totally open minded except just don't tell me to switch to Nvidia or Intel I am just a huge AMD fan and it's just not going to happen.

As soon as everything is decided and ordered and put together I will take picture of everything and update till I have the final product of my New Battle Station.

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Really no one?

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Good looking build, I wouldn't change a thing. I have the same case with the standard front panel and using 2 noctua nf-a14s as intakes. I'm curious about how the new panel will perform with air flow fans.

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Dude its only $15 its worth it to find out. whats crazy is if I would of bought the air flow edition case on Amazon I would have paid like $50 more. I got this case after my mom broke the power button on my Define R4. Never used corsair before and I like the case the only problem I had was the motherboard screw wouldn't fit the standoffs so I had to use the hardware from my R4 otherwise I would have to wait 2 weeks for corsair to send me more really pissed me off. So Corsair kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.

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I'd say that looks like a proper upgrade if gaming is your goal. My only question is. Can you return those speakers if they do not perform to your liking, no questions asked? Buying speakers is a bit like buying clothes. You have to find a fit or you will be annoyed by the wrong choice. Love the desk. Have a black glass one myself, but without the angle.

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I need the angle to do computer repairs and school work. I know that's why I've been asking about speakers I don't have a store around me at all to go listen to speakers at all will definitely look at the return policy on Amazon first.

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Do you really need 2 mices and 40+ programmable keys (between the G19, the G13 and the G700s)?
Other than that seems fine.

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The two miles are because ones for my laptop and just want to see which one I like more. The keyboard is just because I had extra money and couldn't think of anything else and using a cheap wireless one right now. Plus I thought it would be cool to have system Temps or usage on one lcd with team speak on the other so I don't have to tab out.

I will also probably only use like 10 of the programable keys

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I may as well start on video cards since I have been keeping an eye on the reviews of the latest AMD stuff, as well as current trends. You will want to get a gtx980ti instead.

In short DO NOT BUY:

-Fury X

-Fury

-GTX 970, 980

Here is a simple list of cards I recommend in order of what you should consider first:

-GTX 980ti (6GB card) @ $650usd

-R9 390x (8GB card) @ $440usd

-R9 390 (8GB card) @ $330USD

-Anything in the $200 range depends on deals you can find

Here is why:

Video card ram, and it's importance and current usage in games:

DSR (VSR on the AMD side) is a game changing technology that gives better image quality by allowing you to upscale the game resolution up to 4k, and then down sampling it to your native resolution (i.e. 1080p). In short, running a game at 4k with minimal filters (antialising off etc) will give you a better image for about the same performance (i.e. frame rate) than running a 1080p image will all the filters turned on high. I noticed this for a long while now, and Logan has also been stating that he has the same experience.

Now, running games at higher resolution, especially 4k, is taxing on vram. At 4k the latest generation of games, such as Shadow of Mordor, can eat into 5 GB of ram, let alone max out 4GB. These are games that are out now, let alone what games a year from now will do. 4GB cards, simply will be bottle necked soon and will not be able to fully use their built in horsepower as efficiently as a 6-8gb card will. These cards will have to run at 1080p with filters which will be fine (not a disaster), but you may as well get the cards with more ram essentially for no additional cost, since the prices are the same as their 4GB counterparts.

Essentially: High end 4GB cards are obsolete (emphasis on 'high' end, since $200 range cards will not have the power to run latest gen games at 4k anyway, and thus won't need the vram for that).

Price per performance, and some cards trumping others:

First off, the GTX 980ti having essentially the same performance of a Titan x, (but at $650) mixes things up. The Fury x is the same price, has lower performance, and 2GB less ram. The Fury x is not economical and needs a price drop at minimum, but its 4GB of ram kills it as a high end card.

The GTX 980 is $100 less than the 980ti, but you will actually see increasing returns, rather than the usual diminishing returns by spending the extra money on the 980ti. That is just on ram performance, not to mention the 980ti has more vram. The Fury (standard not the Fury X) also suffers from the 980ti having a decent boost for the extra price. Therefore the gtx980 and Fury are invalidated by the 980ti.

The 390x is an 8GB card, In between the 970 and 980. Since it has double the vram, this alone makes it far more valuable than the 980 which just doesn't have the vram for a high end card.

The 390 has the same performance as a gtx970, is the same price and has (more than) double the vram. The 970 was the best bang for the buck a couple months ago, but it is not a good by at all anymore considering the 390 is straight up better.

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So you are saying I should get the R9 390X instead of the R9 Fury X? I had a thread asking this and everyone said the R9 Fury X I should also add that what ever I decide to go with will be getting crossfired in Funerary and everyone was saying the Fury X is awesome in crossfire. I'm just strictly a AMD fan not interested in Nvidia I just want to support AMD as long as I can.

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No 980ti instead of Fury X for the same price.

I also goofed and mixed up the 390x and Fury (standard) and just edited in the correction now. The 390x is NOT on par with the 980 like I said initially. The Fury (non X) in on par with the 980.

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I am not interested in getting a Nvidia at all. SO why are you saying R9 Fury over the R9 Fury X? I understand what your saying about 4Gb cards but like I said the fury is HBM not DDR5 and this is supposed to be a whole new ball game and also like I said I will be adding a second card in like 4-6 months. The whole reason for the upgrade (my 7970 is still awesome) is to get into 4K gaming I'm getting the A399U when I upgrade.

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You may have misunderstood me. I said 980ti over Fury X, Fury, and 980.

HBM is a thing, but texture sizes and ram usage will remain the same. It affects loading things into ram faster, but keeping vram swapping to a minimum is still much faster (Since it is limited by system ram speed).

If you want to stick with AMD, I would go with a 390x, or wait a bit to see how WIndows 10 and Direct X 12 plays out, since you are planning on a second card. If DX 12 allows for both cards to add their ram together (unlike what SLI and crossfire do now) WITHOUT the game developer specifically needing to code that feature in, the amount of vram on a single card won't matter to you.

To put things another way: everyone was dreading the re branding of the AMD 290s, and waiting for the Fury's. Ironically the 'rebranded' cards (although rebrand isn't completely true in this case) are a success in the market, where the Fury X fell short in every way, and the Fury is ok.

I am not sure how a 390x holds up in4k gaming, but the Fury will have problems due to lack of ram. The only answer to dedicated high end 4k gaming is the 980ti currently. Technically the Titan X is an answer as well, but it is not worth the money. *note this statement is about the latest games, and those in the future.

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Well I'm not actually purchasing the card for a couple months. But why are you saying the Fury over Fury X same card except for the Fury has 500 less stream processors and is air cooled. Logan was saying the Fury X and Fury should get much better when they start upgrading drivers. I mean you have explained the most to me than anyone I just don't understand why everyone was telling me to get the Fury X for AMD 4K gaming hands done. Here is the thread please go add your 2 cents there so I can see what other people have to day about your explanation you can just copy and paste. But like I said your the only one that has gone into great detail on why I should.

https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/what-should-i-get-r9-390x-crossfire-or-r9-fury-x/84522

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Oh I am not saying Fury over Fury X. If anything I am saying that the Fury actually has value in its price segment, but the Fury X does not.

The Fury X, even with its HBM, falls short of the 980ti as far as horsepower is concerned. it also has the double whammy of having less vram.

The Fury is on par with the 980 for a similar price. Both cards have the same ram. In this case the Fury is a viable purchase.

However because of DSR, let alone true 4k gaming, the Fury X, Fury, 980, and 970 are all not viable since they do not have the Vram to support 4k gaming for the latest games, let alone future games.

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A good question to ask either @Logan @Wendell or even Jayz2cents is:

In 4k gaming, when the Fury cards end up using more than 4GB of ram, how is their performance compared to a 390x?

I.e. How much does the ram swapping drop performance? Does it drop it below the 390x?

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I'm not technical enough to ask those questions but I will copy and paste those if its ok with you. Price isn't my concern just getting the best performance I can with AMD so I don't have to upgrade for at least another 2 years is my goal.

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I flagged Logan and Wendel, so maybe they will see it and either comment or even do a video on it. it is more something that needs to be tested that is why I mention that its a question to ask them or Jay.

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I should ask just to be clear: Why AMD only?

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I agree I would really like to know because like I said I have a month or 2 before I actually purchase and want to get the best card price is irrelevant. Thank You, you have been super helpful in my threads I really appreciate it big guy.