The REAL Requirements for gaming in 2018

I’ve been on and off the forum probably for over a year and I follow tech quite closely I would say.
So with the new RTX line up of cards now could be a great time for a GPU upgrade and or a system build featuring a new card.
This then got me to thinking about what I would be buying if I were doing a build for someone, which I regularly do. So what would I be after?
Gaming builds are generally a versatile PC so lets look into that line.
First thing id look to find out is what monitor were working with. Is it just a 60hz TV or a normal 1080p monitor? Or could it be 144hz 1080p monitor? 1440p 60hz, 1440p 120hz, 4k?
If were talking about 4k then straight away you are looking at a new build with DDR4 and a 6 core from either brand to go with a 1080ti or a 2080/ti for solid performance over the next generation, right? $1500-$2500?
But what about for anything else. Say 1440p or 1080p with high refresh? For me any ddr4 intel i7 based platform would be perfect so skylake or newer and id be looking for a deal possibly on used hardware to save as much as possible on the build. $1000-$1500?
And finally what about someone using say a TV and trying to get into a PC with a small amount of money like console budget? I would steer those guys into I5 or i7 ivy bridge or haswell based systems and go full used on hardware. $300-$500 machine is very possible and a great back to school build or console killer or whatever you want to say.
GPU choice. This can be surprisingly easy as long as you know the screen you are trying to push.

1080p medium 60hz. Super budget. GTX 960, GTX1050Ti, R9 380x, R9 280x

1080p high/ultra 60hz. Budget. GTX 970, GTX 1060(3) RX 470, rx 570, R9 290, R9 390, Rx 480, Rx 580

1440p medium 60hz. GTX 980, GTX 1060(6), R9 Fury, R9 390x, R9 290x

1440p high/ultra 60hz. GTX 980Ti, R9 Fury, GTX 1070,

For high refresh you are looking at a GTX 1080, GTX 1080Ti or something from the new RTX range?

So again. What would I be after? well I don’t believe in buying new when at the lower end because I feel you can get more for less when you buy used last gen gear so lest see how cheap we can go for a solid 1080p machine that will basically run 60hz high/ultra on anything. We can work in English since I recently did this for a friend and I don’t think RTX will make much change to used pricing at the lower end used market.

CPU. I7 3770. used. £75
H61 motherboard. asrock MATX. used. £40
RAM. 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600. used. £30
GPU GTX 970. used. £90
Case. New. Xigmatek Scorpio £25
Fans. 4x noiseblocker and PWM splitter. new £30
PSU. New. 550w with 2x pcie headers. 80+ bronze. £30
Bling. Cable extentions, LED strip. new. £35
SSD. New. 120GB Kingston. £25
HDD. Used. 2TB. £25
Cooler. New. CM TX3. £17

Cost £422 for the box.

Monitor. Used. Samsung 1080p 60hz. £60
Keyboard and mouse. New. cheap and ok. £30
Speakers. New. USB powered with sub. £15
Headset. Polk. new. £20
Total all inc £547
And that’s not just saying oh this and that. This is the actual cost of the last machine I did.

So my point is this. We see all these builds going on with tech youtubers because if they were honest and told you that you don’t really need a brand new cpu or gpu to be running your fav games how you most likely play them but with high detail levels then they wouldn’t have a channel or any sponsors.

You do not need to go and spend used car money on getting a fast pc when you can build something 80% as good for under £425/£550. I hope this is useful to a lot of first time buyers looking for the challenge of a first time build.

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I’m using a salvaged 3770, Asus P8H61-PRO mobo, and 2x4GB of Adata memory from an Asus workstation that one of my clients was going to throw out. Popped in a used Asus Strix 970 4GB from a friend, a Corsair PSU from Best Buy, and some second hand SSDs for storage. In all, maybe $200 invested! lol. My friend did give me a stupid deal on the GPU and SSDs though.

She runs whatever you want at med/high/ultra settings at 1080p.

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I mean I’m on a mac pro 3,1 with an RX 580 and I’m handling most games just fine. DS3 at high in proton at 60.

Most requirements are more or less suggestions.

Game requirements are marketing tools for the most part.

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Nothing is worse then spending a couple of grand and getting your butt kicked in CSGO by some 12 year old using his Dad’s APU :slight_smile:

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I’m sure a faster internet connection would help with that. :stuck_out_tongue:

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two days

CS:GO doesn’t feel right at all without an autoexec file with lots of console commands. There should a lot of videos on YouTube. If you’re using vsync, you’re gonna have input lag. Also play with like 400-800DPI.

Also that reminds me, my little brother is still gaming on an A8-3870K that AMD sent me for free just for replying to a tweet years ago… lol. Fun little computer! I think he has a 7870XT in it now.

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I personally wouldn’t build a gaming rig with secondhand hardware but that’s just me.

I’d go for something like this as a minimum as an effective 1080p box:
B350 motherboard
Ryzen 2400G
RX570 or a 1050ti/1060 (or maybe make do with the 2400g for a month until card pricing settles down
16 GB of RAM (because 8 is borderline these days)
Case/psu of the user choice
Storage of user choice, but min of 500 gb ssd. I’d only add a spinning disk if required for bulk storage or additional games.

You don’t need anything more than a 1060 or rx570/580 for 1080p gaming; the step up to 1440p or 4k is a lot more expensive.

this is exactly what im talking about. The card was so popular its like devs tuned all the games made over the past few years on it at 1080p and as such auto tune when you first install a game sets a lot of stuff to 1080p high/ultra right out of the box.

Agreed but DDR4 prices suck ass.

Like a 3770 is pretty much as fast as an R5 1400 and DDR3 costs pennies

The 970 is basically the speed of a 1060 3gb

Very modern cheap PC when you are starting out and a great first time build for people.

Prices aren’t anywhere near as bad as they were a few months ago, especially if you’re willing to go sub 3000 mhz.

The 3770 is almost as fast, sure; but you’re impacted by meltdown (and likely no vendor motherboard bios update; gigabyte didn’t provide one for my haswell board for example), it has no h.265 decode support, etc. And those are the reasons I’d stay away from secondhand hardware. You may care less about those things, but running knowingly vulnerable hardware for me is a non-starter.

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Yeah I agree I wouldn’t set out to do it but if the shit kinda falls in your lap… fuck it.

I lived with an uncle who ended up going to rehab but before he did, made sure to pour a water bottle into the top of my newer PC, lol.

I use an 7 year old cpu (2500k) and 4 year old gpu (970) and don’t have any need for an upgrade… :slight_smile:

If we are looking at pure market share numbers, the “requirements” for “gaming” in 2018 are a low end smartphone.

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ryzen 3 1200 stock
3200mhz 8gb
1070 zotac mini
only play on 1080p60hz max settings no high refresh rate
cpu heavy games i take a dip but that’s rts games mostly