Hey you guys, I've posted a question on the forum about building a new pc, and after seeing some more trailers, and videos talking about the division, and how its going to be on pc. I just want to ask, what kind of parts should I get, so that my computer would be able to handle the division fully optimized on my pc. I would like to do water cooling on my build, but seeing I know little about it, I think I'll hold off on that in till I know more about. I don't want to put a water cooler, and have the chance of screwing something up, and getting all my parts wet, and ruined. I would appreciate your help, thank you again for the help, I appreciate it.
Liquid cooling isn't all that bad. There are self-contained loops that are pretty much a easy drop-in. However, if you don't need the performance, air cooling has less points of failure, and some will perform just as well as a water cooler.
https://teksyndicate.com/forum/build-pc/read-you-post-general-guidelines-build-pc/140909
Need more info as well.
Well, how much would it cost to have a liquid cooling with the PC build? I was thinking like a price of around $900? Maybe a little more if the parts are worth it? Im gonna need a new mouse, and keyboard. Is their any GPUs that would be able to handle the division, and that has the ability to do liquid cooling? How would it work liquid cooling the GPU, and the CPU?
Keep in mind that your components will output the same amount of heat. Changing the cooling system is simply a different method of dissipating the heat. Liquid cooling is simply more efficient than air cooling because you can move more heat away from the CPU and directly exhaust the heat outside the case. I've moved to a liquid cooler from air cooling and I can definitely notice that my room gets a lot warmer than it used to(when under load)
I'm going to assume you mean $900 for a total build. It's doable, but I would stick to air cooling as it's cheaper(and often performs similarly). That way, the money saved can then be used on better performing hardware.
There are liquid cooling GPU options, yes. There's the NZXT Kraken G10, which allows some CPU watercooling loops to be mounted onto graphics cards. There is the Asus Poseidon cooler, which has some ports for expandability to custom liquid cooling loops. There are also graphics card blocks for pure custom loop stuff.
Since "The Division" isn't out yet, we can't really predict what it needs besides some minimum and recommended specs.
Something like this would work just fine:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Nr1m
Here is another AMD build, but I put a different motherboard in and a GTX 770, which is a bit stronger than the R9-280.. its about equal to the R9-280X though.
Water cooling really isnt worth the hassle unless you want to do extreme overclocking.. or you are an enthusiast. But both of those things take more money.
I like the Antec P100 case right now because it is virtually dust proof. Just put the rear fan on the front so you have dual intake and it forces all the air through the front dust screen. And it is very quiet. And its just $50
If you can get an extra $100, then I would recommend something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3NvZK
The i5 better than the AMD processors and run cooler too.
If you decide to use watercooling, don't purchase cheap parts. You should be spending hundreds of dollars on a custom loop, otherwise you may as well use a closed loop implementation or stick with air cooling.
Once you factor in all the components of a custom loop: reservoir, pump, radiators, waterblocks, tubing, fittings, coolant, fans; you will realise custom loops are very expensive. The waterblocks and radiators in particular should be high quality to ensure longevity, reliability and performance.
If you want very high frame rates, use multiple graphics cards, seek extreme overclocking potential and/or have lots of money and time, then an open loop implementation is the way to go. But if you just want to play a certain game on maximum settings with a decent frame rate, then closed loop watercooling will be sufficient.
Not to mention current air coolers work very well for fairly high overclocks. You really need to get into the extremes of overclock to justify the open loops these days... unless you are an enthusiast and just want to do it. which is completely fine by me.
So, what would you reccomend for parts? If I get the same performance with regular with air flow instead of liquid cooling. I kind of just thinking with air flow for now, don't have plans for spending alot just want something that would be able to play games at max settings, and then probably add, or change parts for more performance, when the division is close to being release, also what motherboard supports multiple GPUs? And what would be the right choice for a GPUs?
so... I've been just thinking of the parts, and I think decided that I would use the following in my build:
- Corsair Graphite Series 760T Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Windowed Gaming Case with two 140mm red LED fans
- ASUS SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK1 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
- Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
- ADATA XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600W4G9-DB
- Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
- GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready WindForce 3X 450W Video Card
- CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 650W ATX12V/EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
- these are the parts that I was thinking about using, I was looking at some asus motherboard videos on teksyndicate, and I thought I should get it, but please tell me what you think? could I use different parts instead of some of the ones that I have already, or?... would these parts not work well together?
Above are some good ideas. I am obviously partial to my own build, but all are decent builds.
I revised my build some for more price to performance ratio. I didn't include a mouse and keyboard here because since you said you can upgrade some things later in the summer, then that would be a good thing to upgrade. These parts will run pretty much anything you throw at it for 1080p. You can also get a decent overclock on the asrock extreme3 motherboard I included. The asrock extreme3 also supports multiple GPU's, but I woudn't recommend it really. It is best to just save up for a more expensive total build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3O5uW
If you want a new computer in the near future, then spend your money on a good processor and graphics card now and upgrade things like mouse and keyboard later.
Is their like, a chip, or something that I could attach to the motherboard, and make it wireless, it's because I don't want to have it near the modem, because it's in the living room, and I don't want kids, or people touching it. I want it somewhere were no one would be able to get it. if their isn't anything like then, is their a wireless usb stick that would be able to receive good connection without much lag? Wired is better, but for now. I wanna use wireless.
Just grab a wireless card that will go straight into your motherboard PCI-E x1 slot:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WN881ND-Wireless-Express-Low-profile/dp/B0079XWMEI/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1400720265&sr=8-4&keywords=wireless+pci+card
Yep. Wireless cards. Yay.
Your gonna want at least the 4800 version of that card with the 5.0 freq. 2.4 ghz is going to fall on its face. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WDN4800-Wireless-Express-Low-profile/dp/B007GMPZ0A/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1400738528&sr=1-1&keywords=tp-link+4800+wireless+card