Posted this on Reddit (thread here: http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/2aeab4/build_help_opinions_on_the_build/)
And maybe I'm just being pissy or whatever but regardless, and i absolutely CANNOT believe someone brought up the whole "higher power bill" nonsense. Regardless, what do you guys think of this and here are some questions i have
Do you think I'll be able to get a 4.8-5 ghz overclock with these components? If no what could i change to get those OC speeds?
If I want to hit the 4.8+ Ghz OC do i need a $100 cooler or could i go down to something around the price of $50, and do you guys have any reccomendations?
ANYTHING you think of that i could change or improve or make cheaper (and keep the performance the same) say it, I need all the suggestions i can get.
I would use this for gaming (would love to get into BF4 and counterstrike, i already play a lot of minecraft) and the obvious web browsing and video watching and maybe a bit of video editing
Also if you have more benchmarks and info to prove that an intel i5 of the same $180 price tag of the 8350 when it's OC'd then please give them to me, but if swear if someone says "WELL AMD WILL BRING YOUR POWER BILL UP!!!" i might just open a can
It's been proven many times that the power bill difference you will see is almost unnoticeable. I actually used to run an 8350 and now im running a 4790k system, and my power bill maybe went up down $2 from what I was before. H100i will get you to 4.8ghz or higher, VRM temps is what you gotta worry about. Although I would suggest dumping that motherboard and going with a M5A99FX Pro 2.0, that will get you much better overclocks. It has a stronger VRM. I used to run with a 212 evo and that same mobo, and I got to about 4.2ghz, but when I swapped to the h100i and the pro 2.0 and then i could get my 8350 to over 5.0ghz.
Thanks, i didn't even consider being able to get over 5.0Ghz, even 5 was a dream. Added the mobo you suggested, might try to lower the price elsewhere since i am getting way over budget, thanks for the help :)
the m5a97 is the go-to entry level board, if you're overclocking a better choice would be: m5a99x m5a99fx m5a97evo/pro (different chipsets on each, but the same power delivery across all of them, 6+2 as opposed to the m5a97's 4+2)
other than that i approve (the ram looks a bit expensive though)
I dropped the RAM down to some G Skills Ripjaw, tell me if you have suggestions for other good (Blue) 8Gb RAM.
Also dropped from the 2Tb HDD to a 1Tb, really just brought it up to 2 when i had more money in the budget and it seemed like a good idea, coming from a 128Gb SSD in my mac and a 500 (not full) External HDD, 1Tb should be fine
Thanks guys, it's nice that y'all have accepted the fact that I've chosen AMD and not came in talking smack about them like a lot of people do.
And i just remembered another question, do you think non CPU temps will be good with just the stock fans or should i throw in some other fans? Was thinking 1 or 2 140mm LED fans for the front (Blue themed) and maybe replacing the exhaust fan or would that not be necessary?
Also another question, do you think I would be able to boot OSX off the same SSD as Windows and would i be able to dual boot it or something like that? Don't have a lot of windows experience in depth
Yet another, any reccomendations on fans to replace the fans on the H100i or should i not bother?
I mean, I know you don't want to hear it from here... but they were right... a Devil's Canyon i5 is a good bit better for gaming than an AMD FX 8320... at this point, and for the next 2 years, until AMD tries to match it, you get what you pay for... the i5 4690k gets better FPS in games all around the board over the FX9590... if you get the 8320 you're getting the D quality bin 9590s... you'll overclock them to ~4.2 GHz at a max unless you have watercooling... not that the 9590's have a market, but if you're shooting for top end performance in games... the 4690k is the best processor you can buy,,, it actually even outperforms the 8320 in streaming now... weird...
you can boot whatever off of whatever drive you have... so long as it isn't full... it'll ask you which os to boot at startup...
The H100i is rather loud... fractal design fans are like $10, and they're pretty quiet.... of course if you want the best noctua has some ugly brown fans for like $20 a piece that have virtually silent bearings... i also like enermax fans if you want LEDs
Dunno if you read wrong or you typed wrong but I'm getting the 8350 :) I know for gaming one may be better but for some odd reason i just want to go with the 8350.. maybe the underdog has an appeal? Idk
I get about 5 more fps with my 4690k than my 8350 did at 4.8ghz, which is easy to reach on a 8350 with an H100i, I would get a couple NF F12's for your H100i, they are much better and quieter than the stock fans. IMO its better to buy an 8320 or 8350, which are easily overclock able, no point buying a 9590 at $300+ when you can overclock an 8350 as high as a 9590 runs at stock, and they aren't overclock able because of the intense heat. Just my opinions and experiences, I have both systems and I have no real feelings toward one or the other. If i run my 8350 at 5.1ghz the FPS in BF4, and DAOC are the exact same, but my VRM temps and cpu temps get very high.
the intel is indeed faster in most applications but we're also talking about a $58 jump in price from the FX8350 to the 4690k (source:amazon) for somepeople the extra $45 may not be worth it or may not be feasible.
and if you're jumping from the 8320 it's an $88 difference
[yes there are cheaper buys on different site with different deals- but it doesn't change the fact that one platform is more expensive]
NF F12? Edit: Found them, damn those are expensive, any other reccomendations that would be better than the stock fans but cheaper than the F12's? The F12's are definitely an upgrade for later when i get a bit more cash.
Yes they are expensive, but think of it as an investment, you can use them for your next build, and probably the next one after that. They are the best fans I've ever used, by far. Not the most attractive, but im guessing your not making a show piece computer. They have a 5 year warranty. I actually just replaced a F12 after about 4 years of use, starting clicking, called Noctua, gave them a code off the inside, they didn't even want the old one back, and they sent out a new one which I had within about 6 days. Unbelievable customer service. They are very quiet also, not as quiet as say a Corsair SP120 Quiet Edition, but they are PWM and the software that comes with your H100i is awesome for setting custom fan curbs. =)))
I've got the 6core variant of the 8350,.. the 6350. it's stable @ 4.8Ghz (24hr stress test aproved) but I don't like the voltage so I run it at 4.7.
Once my paycheck gets here i'm ordering an r9 290. I'm sure it's going to bottleneck a little bit but I'm not worried because it's enough to play everything i want. However next summer I plan on switching platforms to intel and getting their new upcoming 6core (5820k) and when that happens I'll be getting another 290 (or a 390 dpending on how interesting the next gen is and how resell prices are). When that happens i will be a very happy man.
Will buy those, had been looking at them prior to posting this but dropped them out of the build. In the case I get this build done before December (Which includes my birthday and Christmas) then I will definitely get a bunch of the F12's and other peripherals
That's a nice processor too, and a nice overclock :). I honestly don't think you will experience much bottlenecking, if at all..dunno though. I'm hoping AMD will come out with some new stuff, I have always liked AMD and love supporting the underdog. I mostly just game, and while I can probably afford to buy a really expensive crazy system, I find myself building more modest $1500-$2000 systems, I like having a couple different variations. I like experience both company's.