So is anyone going to play with Qubes?

I mean..... I'm hooked. Sounds like a wet dream to me I just need a good lappy to run it and it'll be my daily mobile machine. Just wanted to know what others thought of it.

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Well see there in lies the question. How well does it actually run as an OS? You are sacrificing a lot of resources for the sake of security.

If you run this on a laptop, I assume you can only do a small handful of tasks before you run into serious performance issues.

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I used it a while back on my old Q8300 machine with 4GBs of memory, wasn't a completely terrible experience even on such limited hardware, even managed to passthrough Ethernet and WiFi to the networking vm without any issues. It is an interesting approach to security and would like to try it on more capable hardware sometime.

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Not even with security, my ultimate dream setup is just shell machines that you buy 100 bucks each that you connect to your main box at home that runs VMS like this, then you pass each VM over the net hosted on your box. Qubes itself is my first step towards that. I'm enticed TBH.

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No I will not be messing with Qubes as I am quite comfortable in the Windows environment.

I've been using it (refugee from windows 10 -- they turned up the temperature too much, too quickly for this frog) for a little under a year now. Not wholly sure how I ran across it, but I'm quite happy with it.

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Just installed it on an Intel NUC, now I need to work out why the network connection isn't working at all part of the fun I suppose.

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I don't currently have anything with two GPU's in it, but if I can find a a decent deal on one, I'd like to give Qubes a whirl on my X99 desktop machine. Qubes may not be the future, but I'm convinced that containers and virtualization are.

I would really like to try it, but the Xen EFI loader doesn't like my EFI and doesn't want to run any of the boot-loader options of the DVD. And for some reason my EFI won't run the DVD in legacy (BIOS) mode. I guess I will just wait for the next release to see if that helps.

I'm getting:

Couldn't obtain the file system protocol interface

I am certainly interested... but just had a baby... so no free time right now

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Creating a USB installer isn't an option? EFI boot worked fine when I tried it on my previous system, though apparently not consistently, but the legacy boot should be quite robust.

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Congrats !

I currently have a systemd-nspawn for the environments I develop on or a sandbox -s -l "s0" -X -w 1920x1080 -H temphome/ -T tmp/ firefox sandboxing works on a lot of app very well too. For the windows stuff, I just use a VM, Although there is a good use case for Qubes, with Opsec / Infosec and forensics work.

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Yeah I might give that a try, but trying the DVD I already made previously was all I had time for right now. If it works now, it will just pull me in and take the time I should be spending on studying for my finals. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Just installed it on my modified x230 once I have all my development Vms Transferred I will probably mimic the setup on my desktop right now I use my laptop for everything important and my desktop is just windows for gaming. Should work well seeing as how I dont need gpu passthrough for my games as they all run on linux, I just haven't seen a reason to reinstall everything while losing a windows environment.

Qubes OS is a great way to "containerize" or jail desktop apps. There will be allot of overhead in CPU and RAM use as well as disk space each application or workspace needs the basic file structure in the container. Qubes is impressive to me because i tried to create the same OS concept years ago when XEN virtualization was stable enough to actually use, the amount of work they have put into ease of use and making it all seamless is insane. back around 2005 when i was trying to do this i had to use many machines in a small cluster due to resource limits. I still containerize this way through physical separation. for example I have an older thinkpad that's just my "browser workspace" with virtual machines that i connect over remote desktop and autowipe after each use.

The point is you can create a "Hybird" setup if you find yourself hitting a resource wall with Qubes OS and still have the same level of security. Ive been running this way for a little over 10 years using older hardware, each box is a "qubes workspace" while this takes more configuration and time to setup it gives me the same benefits and im only running on core2's and an i5.. :slight_smile:

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I think the method I use would be better for gamers or just about anyone that needs to boot into a windows OS but still wants to have a very secure web browsing setup available, it just requires a spare machine and some setup instructions. A good topic for another thread.

Gonna install it on my poweredge.

Gotta do something with those 8 cores
32GB of ram can't go to waste, tisk tisk tisk

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It flat out won't start the installer on my Sager / Clevo laptop. I'm guessing it's because of the Nvidia card. And I can't disable it in BIOS.

I do have it running on my XPS 13 but having issues getting networking up. :confused:
I have USB networking adapters but can't get Qubes to use them as it's networking device.

Make sure the sys-net qube has the NIC attached as a device in the sys-net settings. You'll have to shut down Whonix,Firewall, then sys-net in that order to do so.

doubt the nv card could do that. Can you enable legacy bios mode? The UEFI installer doesn't always work.