I agree that safety is only one aspect of it all, especially once you get into the whole EM argument it gets a little fuzzy, but as far as the equipment installation itself goes, its just ludicrous. Basically somebody pitched the idea that smart a smart grid could save around 4% on the overall consumption of electricity. this inspired the government to issue a deal where electricity providers would be paid a subsidy of i think it was 100 million or more to install the meters, but they would only get paid as the meters were installed. So PG&E went to china , slapped together some meters that did something like what they had imagined , and hired a bunch of temp workers to go and install them as fast as possible, some of them with very minimal training, this lead to house fires and other health risks. they also strongly discouraged the idea of not switching to the new meters by making it difficult to opt out or simply breaking into peoples houses and swapping the meters when nobody was home. to me this seems down right illegal and wrong on pretty much every level.
i disagree that the EM thing has to be put to rest. not to say we should all go out and make ourselves some tin foil jump suits. but having worked with CE and other standards associations, its really not a big concern to them either. the truth is yes, all energy creates some form of radiation, cosmic or otherwise but that doesn't mean we should simply ignore it all, especially with the boom of wireless products being released every year, i mean do you know of a place in your normal environment where you are not constantly exposed to some sort of wifi or radio signal? surely that has some effect on our cells especially during early development. if we are so hard pressed to label GMO's i don't see why the same standards don't apply to EM signals. especially if we can come up with some simple products or labels or standards that could reduce or at least quantify exposure.
It is non ionizing radiation it will not hurt you. But smart everything is a dumb idea due to lack of security.
I was a nuclear operator and had to learn radiation health.
- First, that's pretty bad ass!
- how much did they teach you about EM fields?
- how current was this information?
- could you share some of that?
I was a nuclear mechanic in the US Navy. I worked on the mechanical system on the power plant.
I went through 2 years of training which included a 3 month course on Rad Health.
Em radiation could hurt you if the power level was extremely high -> Think being put in a microwave oven. For the most part because it doesn't ionize it doesn't mess with cell structure. Ionizing is bad because it well mess with the electron bonds inside the cell changing their bio chemistry. Also, if a particle was massive like a neutron it could knock other atoms out of their chemical bonds.
These thing happen all day everyday to us. When that happens the cell normally dies but if that defect lives on into a new generation of cells it could result in cancer.
EM radiation is only bad at high power levels like a gamma or x-ray since the power level is high enough to cause Pair Production, Compton Scattering, and Photo Electric Effect.
ok it seems you are talking more about particulate radiation , and yes alpha waves are some serious shit with massive neutron particles. im talking more about EM waves which (as i understand) are about resonant frequency. i totally concede that EM is not in the same universe as particulate radiation or ionizing radiation, but that does not mean that it does not effect our cells in different ways, how exactly that happens i am currently exploring and would appreciate any insight you have to offer on the subject. the other side is if it is something that we don't fully understand , how would it be possible to protect or shield such fields? if there is a simple solution to remove em fields from effecting us every hour of every day, wouldn't it be worth exploring?
I brought up various different forms of radiation to put things in perspective. Em radiation, i.e light-matter interaction really won't occur at the low energy levels that radio wave are at.
True EM can cause molecules to spin but only heat occurs as result. The sun produces ton of photons at all parts of the spectrum at a much higher rate than we produce. I would say the risk is relatively minimum compared the the risk of radon or over over exposure to the sun
Hi Peer Goggles,
I am interested in this topic as well, and would appreciate any new information/insights you've gained since you last posted here. The subject has only come to my attention in the past few months, but the amount of scientific research supporting the exercising of caution around wireless technology is staggering.
I am currently reading a book called Overpowered, by Dr. Martin Blank, and have found it very informative.
What I find most poignant, is the experiment (which has been repeated by many scientists) showing the difference between healthy sperm, and sperm exposed to just twenty minutes of radiation from a cell phone. They don't look like healthy swimmers anymore...
You also might be interested to know that there is a bill headed into the Canadian government (Bill C-648) calling for warning labels to be put on cell phones.
Cell phones are non-ionizing radiation SO CELL PHONES WONT HURT YOU\
Also Martin Blank's opinion is irreverent because he is a chemist not an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER
Also DON'T NECRO THREADS
Been debunked already in this thread and more reading here:
http://doubtfulnews.com/2014/04/more-scare-mongering-about-cell-phone-use-now-in-salon/