Hey all, i want to build and talk about a new non k skylake build. I was thinking about the differences between the 6400 and the 6500 if there will be any after you overclock them. since all you read is the i5 6400 i am wondering why nobody takes a i5 6500?! is it just the price that is different in you overclock? are they the same just with a higher clock?
Besides that i read at some forums and saw at benchmarks, that with the skylake generation you can se an improvement in FPS during a game if you improve the memory speed. there is on youtube a comparison with an i3 6100 with a memory speed of 2133 in compare to the same processor with a memory that did run at 2560.
With that in mind i'm targeting a good 1080p rig at a solid 60fps at least in most games. im a casual gamer but enjoy good graphics. The budget is around 700 to 800 euros since i now live in austria.
Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
ASRock Z170 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
G.Skill Value 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
Sandisk Ultra II 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Sapphire Radeon R9 380X 4GB NITRO Video Card
BitFenix Neos Black/Gold ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
So, i was thinking if the hyper evo is enough to keep it stable at 4.2 Ghz. Besides that the ram, i get it for 33 euros for an 8GB stick so is that ram good for 2666MHz? Is the PSU an overkill if i plan to overclock and add another 2 ssd's? Im open for all suggestions and forgive me for my bad english :) greetings from europe
The main thing you need to look into is a non K processor will not overclock that is why thay have a k version that is over clocable so you wont be able to over clock the i5 6400 to 4.2 ghz. That being said the hyber 212 evo should be perfectly fine with that processor but if you plan on getting an over clockable cpu and pushing it up to higher speeds like 4.2 4.5 and the like it might be better to get a little bit higher end cpu cooler.
with the new bios updates on various z170 motherboard you can get the non k cpus to clock a lot higher than the stock speed. so you say the 212 evo is not goos enoughß what would you recommend?
Was about to start a new thread about this. I plan on doing the same thing.
@shadowvengence22 I'm not sure why you're suggesting the Hyper 212 is fine without overclocking. You should check out the temperatures people are getting on untouched Skylakes with the stock cooler. Extremely impressive. Use a thermal paste such as MX-4 and you'll see great results.
@AlexandrosFrmgr Watch this video.
He said that under load, the 6400 sees 71 celsius @ 4.32 GHz with a Hyper 212. TBH, it's actually really disappointing to see that temperature. I could understand if it were approaching the 5.0GHz mark, but the low 4.0 range, that's just not justified. If the 212 isn't up to snuff, try something from Noctua. From what i remember, their coolers perform extremely well. And they're among the best when it comes to air cooling. Really well made, and they tend to be silent, too. And as for the BIOS updates, i believe ASRock are the only ones actually releasing them officially to support overclocking on NON-K CPUs. The ones from MSI, ASUS and the like seem to be from folks who are modifying the BIOS themselves. Correct me if i'm wrong. The only two things that irk me right now about this are 1. No official support from companies other than ASRock. 2. Temperatures seem funky as hell, so far. Or maybe the dude in the video was just using a bad cooling setup? And as a sidenote, the wattage that was recorded was quite extreme.
EDIT: Also might want to switch to DDR4 2133.
Why would you want to switch to DDR4 2133? it is the same price as 2400, besides that any opinions on the build? Its the PSU an overkill?
i like the noctua performance wise, but that colour is just...... the hydro looks good but way out of budget!
Yeah I would have to agree with you there thair color choice has always buged me but those things run quit. When it comes to the corsair hydro series they have a whole line so you could chose an h60 as well that what I run on my i5 3570k at 4.1 ghz and at Idle I get 35C and at load I get 45C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181030&cm_re=corsair_hydro_series-_-35-181-036-_-Product
That's what i said as well, but it requires overclocking. And the difference in performance is next to none.
Instead of a 212 Evo consider a Cryorig H7 or H5. I have used about 6-7 212 and 212 Evos and they are much louder and less good coolers than the H7 and H5 (H5 is a step up) Personally I would buy an H7 and a Cryorig QF120 Performance fan to allow for higher RPM and more CFM if needed for higher voltage overclocks and still have better performance for around the same price as a 212 Evo (considering price without
Also, there is no large benefit for you to pay extra for a R9 380X 4GB over a R9 380 2 or 4GB. Also, if I was you I would not spend $30 on a CPU cooler instead I would get the CPU cooler later and start off with a better Non-K CPU like a Core i5-6500 which has a much better multiplier for overclocking using BCLK.
Good luck with the build!