Silverstone ML04 Plausibility

Hi all.
It looks like I'll get to build a computer just for Linux gaming but desk space is an issue. I've got a parts list with a standard case but had the idea to build it in a HTPC case and mount it under the desk. How can I make this work?

The Silverstone ML04 (Micro ATX, Full PSU) is the case i'm looking at. I'd remove the drive bays and just have 1 SSD (to being with). The case comes with no fans. Also it looks really shallow. Can it even have a GPU? Does it have to be 1 slot? That new water cooled AMD one maybe but AMD drivers on Linux are meant to be crap.

So, if you wanted to mount a budget-ish Linux gaming PC on the bottom of your desk, could it be done in the Silverstone? Would you use another case? (Has to be "rack style", so long, short and deep (giggidy)). What would you build?

Currency: $900 - $1300 AUD
Supplier: PPCG (more realistic to what Australians pay)
OS: Manjaro Linux
Concerns: Cooling in small form factor, CPU cooler clearance, GPU clearance
Old Parts List: (monitor and mouse, no longer needed)

Have fun!

Well are you gaming on your PC? If so what resolution
Also I don't think linux gaming is quite there yet

Short story: 1920x1080. Yeah you're probably right.

Long story: Right now I use 2 different sized monitors with my dual boot PC. A few of us might chip in for this 2nd PC, which would allow a LAN of 2. If it goes ahead we'll build it in a few months and by then KF2 will be out of Early Access and on Linux. Also I have a laptop with WIndows 7, which I use for audio. I'm keen to test Linux gaming and I have the out of switching the OSs on this machine and the laptop. Although when I tried audio in Linux before I didn't have a good time.

Well depending on how crazy you want to get you could go broadwell, which has some linux gaming benchmarks here, the iGPU on broadwell is pretty fast and you'd be building in this case, which is hardly larger than an ITX board, and has a bracket to mount it through a VESA mount

faster RAM is there due to integrated graphics utilizing it for higher performance.

Broadwell is expensive because of the Cache the iGPU has to work with, which is why it's so fast

PCPartPicker part list:
Price breakdown by merchant:

CPU: Intel Core i7-5775C 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($369.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Inwin BQ656T.AD120TBL Mini ITX Desktop Case w/120W Power Supply ($55.99 @ Directron)
Total: $616.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-18 22:18 EST-0500

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I don't think you can fit the GPU in that case. And that motherboard is known to die pretty quick.

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What a beastly reply, thank you. I didn't realise that APU's could be that decent on Linux. Makes sense thought because Boradwell is new. I think your build is strong and whilst APU's and small form factors are something I haven't done before, I will give that a try over my previous plan. (It still needs an SSD, if anybody else wants to do the same)

APU is more AMD's term

but here are the non linux benchmarks, I mean it's not bad, basically handle entry level 1080p gaming alright, faster RAM should help it out a bit, it's actually faster than the A10 APUs, due to the on board cache, once AMD releases APUs with HBM on die, the entry level market is pretty much dead if the price is right,4169-6.html

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iGPU it is.
I'm impressed. Are the only things you loose DSR (or the non-branded version of that(?Downscaling?)) and the like?

My friend did an APU build 2 years ago but put a GPU into it 4 months after. Whilst it was something like 40FPS, he got artifacts and other dodgy things. I'm assuming with generations behind them they are on par with some GPU experiences?

He probably tried to do dual graphics which isn't exactly a great idea.

Otherwise ya they're about on par with older GPUs, the APUs can handle light 1080p, but mostly 720/900p gaming with fast memory

here's the overclocked APU with fast memory test, although it's not really realistic as you'd typically buy a $100 GPU over spending all the extra money on the APU

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FYI, on au.pcpartpicker none of these parts except the RAM are available. If I wanted to build it now, I'd get messed on postage. Still great idea I hope I get to do in a few months. I'm guessing it will be about $1000 AUD with SSD.

Musta missed that part, ya then you'd pretty much have to go with the APU if you really wanted the GPUless build

otherwise you probably want an i5 with like a 380 for gaming

PCPartPicker part list:
Price breakdown by merchant:

CPU: AMD A8-7650K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($138.99 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ Mini ITX FM2+ Motherboard ($159.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($73.00 @ IJK)
Total: $370.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-19 15:50 AEDT+1100

PCPartPicker part list:
Price breakdown by merchant:

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($275.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card ($331.98 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130 Mini ITX Tower Case ($57.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($105.00 @ Umart)
Total: $986.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-01-19 15:52 AEDT+1100

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These benchmarks of the iGPU could be a problem. I imagine Killing Floor 2 would be similar load to Bioshock Infinite. I know Insurgency isn't that intensive but 1080p High 106 FPS to Bioshock 1080p Low 37 is a huge drop.

That varies a ton from what's on tom's, wonder which is correct.

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