Hi all I have a question for you. Should I buy ryzen r5 1600 and a x370 motherboard but wait till DDR4 prices go down? Or should I wait for ryzen 2 to see what happens?
I currently have a fx-8320, 970-A motherboard, 16 Gigs of DDR3, a gtx 960, and 300 dollars to spare for a upgrade budget.
I’ve seen AMDs road map and I know that ryzen 2, is just a refresh of ryzen so in 2019 thats when the 7nm chipset is going to be released. My 8320/gtx 960 combo can handle high 1080 above 60 fps but I’m fearful that ryzen 3 (if thats their name of their chip) going to be like Ryzen 1 where the launch wasn’t good due to Ram speed issues and overclocking.
Well since i heard that GDDR6 is coming quick I know that DDR4 will become the new DDR3 prices given a couple of years and Ik that flash nan chips won’t be too scarce due to not hyped launches like what the iphone X was.
To continue on that, apple has to deal with the issue of trying to settle their prices down since people aren’t enthusiastic about spending 1000 USD on a smart phone that had a pretty troubling launch.
I feel that the next shortage on the market maybe arm chips since it will be the raging multiple SoCs on a product instead of having one.
But back to the main topic of this thread.
I thinking Ryzen 2 maybe a safe bet but if then should i keep with an x370 board or move on to their x470 board?
Ram speed support is just fine. I doubt with those prices you will go more than 3200MHz, since 2666 is some 2-3% slower for way lower price…
Even Ryzen3 1200 will outperform 8350 in everything…
GDDR6 is for graphics cards. DDR4 is system memory. There is huge difference.
Ryzen 2, that is supposed to be just a refresh may not be just a plain refresh. Higher speeds, 12nm means lower heat, lower power consumption as well…
The second generation ZEN cores will be large improvement… In 2019. We are february 2018. Just hold on a couple months and get 2600 or whatever.
The prices will not change. This isn’t a newegg/amazon price scam thing, this is a china makes all the chips so they demand more money for their work thing. And to be honest I don’t have a problem with that.
Work was shipped to china because it was cheaper there. They wanted any work they could get. Now? Now they are realizing that they are WAY more skilled than a lot of other places in the world and the workers are getting pissed. We’re about to witness something of an industrial / economic revolution in china and something of an underground democracy spawn. It’ll be great. So if you want a new PC now, do it quick. Its why I’m looking at dual socket xeons rather than ryzen.
So that would be the best bang for your buck price for ram speeds?
Well that is pretty obvious, bulldozer architecture wasn’t good at all
Sorry my offense I meant to say DDR6 not GDDR6
Yes and I hope that its good enough that I can achieve a stable clock speed of 4.5 Ghz.
Thats the part, since its a major improvement over it then I don’t want to have buyer’s remorse if I get ryzen 2. @FaunCB how bad do think its actually going to be? You think its going to be a major shift where electronic products will have a big shortage since chinese workers will hold a protest for reasonable pay due to their skills?
If you pardon the small technobabble, it’ll be bad enough that over the years we’ll see migration to systems that don’t need 16GB of ram to just run windows and chrome. IE: we’ll see more ARM based systems pop up and the populace will slowly shift for general needs such as banking, youtube, facebook, etc. RemixOS will probably be the test office of that, and then we’ll see apple release an ARM laptop so that they don’t have to pay more than 200 dollars per laptop so they can keep quota, but then everyone will. I see that happening slowly over 12-15 years easy. Maybe a little longer.
But the precursor to that will be price spiking. Since you seem to be a budget builder, you’ll be affected. I build on scrap and keep a tier of hardware till it dies, so people like me will be less so bothered. Neither will the people who dump 2000 dollars on a new laptop every year or 4000 on a new gaming / workstation PC to play minecraft. So for the first 5 years the prices will go up and as usual people will say that the budget builders are whiny and should just work harder for their machines. And likely the budget builders will be the first to go to the ARM offerings.
And even if we move Si manufac back to the states at any scale, the prices will still climb because people here want jobs too. The only way to keep the prices down is to literally just buy north korea and russia but we know that won’t happen. Not in a long shot.
So, just make sure you build something you’ll be comfy with for… I dunno, 6ish years? 3000mhz ram, 1600, good mobo, but plan for a backup board 4 years down. Coolers can be changed at any time, PSU’s can, drives can, but maybe not SSD’s. Personally for drives I have been looking at doing SAS for everything, and in the plebian terms, WD Velociraptor’s. Later on 15K cheetah’s though. Can be a bit pricey, but just as fast as SSD’s if you’re just using it as boot, which I at least am. But thats just me. 10K and 15K drives are easy for me to get, SSD’s less so. So for me SSD’s are out of reach, at least for now. Can’t hurt though.
Just look at what the market is doing and figure your time out. Its not like CPU’s can go bad or anything