I have a budget of 350€ and I'm able to buy a used GTX 780 Ti. I don't know if I should buy it or wait for AMDs 300 series.
If you're going Nvidia, get the 970 instead. Newer architecture, slightly better performance, and has a higher frame buffer.
I think at this time it would be important to purchase something that is compatiable with DX12 or wait till the benchmarks come out on dx12.
Almost all current cards are dx12 ready.
Well not completely but ya... If your buying new today invest in the new directx standard with the modern architecture. Whatever card you buy. It will not be known how well the older gpus will perform with older architecture per say. So take the safe bet.
I would just wait til the 390x comes out then nvidia price drop will soon follow. Unless your on a 8800gtx or 200x nvidia I would just wait. There really hasn't been that much in terms of gains in terms of graphics since the 7970/690 days.
Better performance? Are you drunk. The 780 Ti is the same as a 980. It's the 780 that has the same performance as the 970.
Some games the 970 does come close to the 780 ti, although most are closer to the 980 yes.
Sorry, I meant to say better performance when overclocked.
There has already been statements from Nvidia all cards from 500 series and up will be fully DX12 compatible.
Although yes some older cards are going to be compatible, the theory and general consensus is that cards that are coming from dx11 aren't going to be as fully optimized for dx12, and probably won't see as huge of improvements as say the Gtx 900 series which was coded from a closer to hardware level with dx12 in mind.
I don't understand how you can say cards that were manufactured over a year ago and released 8 months ago is built with an API that isn't even released and only just announced in mind. Even if there was some communication that is a LOT of forward thinking that i just don't believe the industry has. It is much more likely the limiting factor will be the driver support, not the hardware or architecture. Maxwell didn't do anything "closer to the hardware", it was built to be energy efficient not DX12 compliant.
Since the cards were still in development when dx12 was being built and initially previewed, the thought is that they could still make (somewhat) major changes to the cards.
If its substantially cheaper than a new 970 and comes with reciept (for rma if needed) then yes, probably worth considering. Although that price does seem a little steep still.
Buying say a new 970 (of which performs relatively the same as a 780ti) there's warranty, lower power consumption and perhaps a few game coupons (at the moment Witcher 3 comes with new cards here in Australia).
Since I cant remember a single time where buying a card that supported future version of directX(or a version of DX that future games were going to support) was ever beneficial. I would not count that as a plus on a card at all, because by the time a game that comes out that fully supports DX12 the card you buy today will most likely be useless anyway. for example the ATI HD2000(first DX10cards) cards were worthless in crysis 1(DX10 game) and the HD 5000 cards were kind of useless in games that supported DX11 2 years after they came out.
Basically the HD5000 cars came out in 09 and games didn't really even start to support dx11 until 2013. my point here is until we see games that actually support DX12 is when you should worry about DX12.
if you have a good enough GPU right now as is and are in no hurry to get a GPU just wait for the AMD 300 cards(since they are right around the corner) if you cant wait then take you budge pick the tier of card in your budget for either Nvidia or AMD and buy what ever card is on sale that week or comes with the game bundle that you want. A 780ti is still a fine card.
i would just wait, i assume that the 300 series will be launched arround computex
The GTX970 is a good performing card, but the 3.5GB vram issue, still botters me personaly.
@Death_Masta187
The Geforce 8000 series was the first DX10 lineup, and was released half a year before the HD 2000's. The 8800 GT remained one of the most recommended GPUs until the Tesla architecture in 2008 (GT200), and two 8800 GTs in SLI handled Crysis just fine, if you had a good quad core machine.
The release of the HD 5000 series was followed by a small lineup of DX11 based games, including Metro 2033, Dirt 2, and BattleForge. The HD 5000 series was more impressive for being the first 40nm flagship design to support DX11 and OpenCL, and for the fact that it nearly doubled what TeraScale 1.2 (HD 4000 series) was capable of per shader.
@Phyrce
The most recent benchmarks with the development builds of DX12 show that anything prior to Kepler (GTX 600 series) is not supported. Fermi will be officially retired.
Thanks to everyone contributing. I decided to pull the trigger. If DX12 isn't working out for me I can always sell it.
well, if you buy that card for 1080p it should basicly be fine.
But for 1440p, the 3GB of vram might become a limitation.
I would not waste my money on it personaly.
DX12 will still work out for you, but certain features such as ASynch shader support will not be effective. You will still see a decent performance jump with the use of DX12 in DX12 applications.
Enjoy the card!