Hi there Tek Syndicate forums, I've decided to move here from LTT due to the nature of the audience I've found tends to be more mature, than the LTT audience, I am planning on making a Second pc as a dedicated Stream box, however I'm unsure of what I should be getting for parts., I'm in MA,USA, Looking to spend no more than $1500 USD for all parts, a Mixer, all necessary adapters and os, I already have a spare monitor and spare peripherals. I ideally want to use the Cooler Master Haf 915 for my case, and a black magic intensity pro for my capture device, I will be capturing off of my main PC and off of an Xbox one, my Broadcasting software will be OBS, I think i will only need a small SSD for the drive as at this time i don't plan on recording from this machine to do YouTube or any editing. I would prefer to go intel for the processor, as I have had bad experience with AMD processors (9590 dieing after 6 weeks), My current Microphone is a Audio Technica At 2020-USB and i want to do a mixer where game audio and microphone is on separate channels, My headphones are Razer Black Sharks, so what are all of your suggestions for this new setup?
What kind of power supply did you use with the 9590?
Otherwise you really don't need to go near 1500 for a streaming PC, you'd do fine with an 8320e build or a Xeon 1231v3 in a silence optimized build probably.
Sounds awesome man, you can bet that we'll get that sorted pretty quick with such a hefty budget. The majority builds around here are usually 'bang for your buck'.
I actually have some experience with such systems as I experimented with building one a while back and eventually got bored and posted it for sale. (I'm not much of a streamer XD). It was also MUCH cheaper of a build as I was curious as to what I could get out of the most minimal hardware.
In my build I did actually use an A8 chip (simply for it's price) and only 4 GB of DDR3 ram, and in all honesty I was completely suprised, the little machine was awesome and performed exactly what I needed it to.
However, if I were to do it again, I would probably jump on a significantly faster processor, as while the one I used was able to pull out an even 60fps most of the time, it was always right on the edge and would occasionally drop down below target when another background process would take any CPU time. There would also be no way it would ever handle any higher of resolution such as 1440p or 4K which PC gaming seems to be slowly steering towards.
Small SSD is also probably an okay way to go but you never know what you may run into as far as what you may want or need so I would recommend at least a 128GB drive.
I quickly threw together a simple build right below.
I chose the i7-3770 as the powerhouse as while it's a couple generations behind, it still smokes a ton of brand new chips and would work perfect for the application. Paired with an Asus ITX board for a good feature set and because Asus boards are awesome. Plus since sandy bridge has been around for a while, there's a ton of parts available.
The rest pretty much explains itself. You can view it here.
You will probably find it hard to use a mixer with a USB microphone however most streaming applications like OBS will handle mic's and system audio separately anyway.
A EVGA super nova 1300w G2, and the 1500, is for the pc, a mixer, capture device and all necessary adapters especially when a capture device from what i see is usually around 300$ for a decent one, the budget shrinks fast.
Musta been really unlucky then, or it wasn't cooled properly, which probably isn't the case.
Gimme a second
I think i would go with a Noctua NH-D14, for a cooler since the Haf Stacker 915 has little to no radiator support. and i dont understand Differences in chips Much how is the 3770 different from a 4790k or 4770k?
The first gen haswell chips had terrible TIM that made them poor for overclocking, but otherwise there wasn't much of a performance bump
I had read that as 912
Sure you don't want a micro ATX system?
I'm trying to get this to take up as minimal space in my already crammed bedroom , i have my Switch 810 living under my desk and figured this would go on top of my desk which is where the Itx is coming into play. What do you both think of this? i have no idea if this would be any good? http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dMKvyc
It actually supports up to a 360mm radiator
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mini-itx/haf915r/
So there's my base suggestion, you don't want to buy a kingston V300 SSD, they did a bait and switch on the controllers
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8gGTW
the mobo you picked has no usb3, as well as why liquid cooling, im trying to go for silence optimized as this will be on my desktop, as well as why did you swap the ram, and that Mobo would need a bios refresh, and why the swap from the f to the r?
Swapped to the r because it has more hard drive support and is better suited for liquid cooling.
The Silencio AiOs are very very quiet
Otherwise on the motherboard front I didn't see that, so feel free to change that.
I just grab whatever RAM is made by a reputable company and cheap
Had to double check to make sure I had the right case, except I thought it details up to 360mm radiator along the side and multiple radiators if necessary.
As far as CPU, I suppose there's not a ton of difference, 3-series processors used to be cheaper last time I was shopping around and 4-series has come down in price. So while marginally better you're right that it would be worth the price.
so i think this is good? the recent changes for Air cooling since i personally don;t like liquid coolers, they add too many points of failure in my opinion, which would leave me a little http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vTyYFT over 300 for the mixer and necessary adapters and cables.
All in one coolers are pretty safe man
Intel SSDs aren't really worth it because they brick themselves when they think they're going to run out of writes
and noctua fans I don't feel are really worth it, the new venturi vans from fractal look highly promising, they're 140mm fans but they can fit into most 120mm slots
As for the paste shoot for MX-4
For audio mixing you can choose to go with a software solution which works with USB and any real/virtual input devices in windows for free.
Check out VB VoiceMeeter. The Pro version (which is also free since its donationware), called VB-Audio VoiceMeeter Banana
http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Voicemeeter/banana.htm
Here is a guide on how to do a basic setup for it to work properly in windows.
You can map the volume and channel mute controls over MIDI so you can have a remote control over the mixer without having to be at the PC. I do this on my main PC. It should work with a remote PC just fine even with mouse/keyboard control.
i have no midi devices? and ild be infront of both computers so perhaps that will work, sofar im down to 1300 for the capture device and the stream pc atleast you guys are helping me save money :)
Just a heads up. A mixer is useless unless you have a need for a xlr mic and it looks like you have a USB mic. Just push the game sound over HDMI to the capture card and plug your mic straight into your streaming pc.
The difference is the ability to overclock. Completely though there are minor memory differences, probably some thread differences (maybe, I dunno I'm an AMD user).
I have to ask, have you used OBS and nonesuch before? It's very easy to set up and as @hate said you don't really need a mixer for a USB mic.
Further on, have you looked at the fractal design cases? I haven't had a good background with the HAF cases as the one I had a build in was very flimsy 3:
The FD cases are sturdy and allow for as much airflow as possible. And a thought on a cooler is that Deep Cool has a lot of nice dual fan coolers available. I have one and it isn't really all that loud. If anything the loud fan is the old processor blower I pulled out from a dell that sits at the top of my case. Not to say Noctua isn't a good idea, but if you wanted to save some cash might as well have a look.
If you're going to be streaming as well are you going to overclock or just use a standard clock? Don't throw more money at a 'k' chip than you need to. You should focus on the GPU and memory in my opinion but I am also on a lower budget.
I stream as well and the first box I started on was an Optiplex 980. It had an i7 870 in it and I never had a slow down. In short, I never needed to overclock because I didn't have a reason to. Since your video is only going to be 30 FPS unless you're a twitch/youtube/whatever partner that side, to me at least, wouldn't matter as much.