i am really salty about wayland and want nothing to do with it
thats the point. Since now the majority of lnux distro have wayland as their main compositor, anyone with my use case is now locked to using older distros (which won't work for using newer hardware) or distros that don't or choose not to support it. Severely limiting my options.
And you know what... thanks to open source you actually can. You can use Mir for a modern experience that kinda works or X11 for a traditional experience that will continue to kinda work. You can also switch between wayland and X11 on any particular distro in seconds, all it takes is to login again, don't even have to restart your machine for it.
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Gentoo is current.
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Debian Stretch, Gentoo/Funtoo, etc...
Also, nobody forces you to use wayland, you can switch easily
I actually tried using gentoo and had issues with it setting it up to boot with UEFI mode. But then I got frustrated and just wanted something to work so I caved and installed Ubuntu.
Average Joe Person is not going to want to install Gentoo just so he can have Screen recording abilities.
Average Joe is also not going to stick with i3 WM to hang on to X11 at all cost. Average Joe will just want all of the nice graphical features of a modern graphical desktop environment. The level of integration of wayland of course causes developers to push themselves, but so does maintaining X11. The open source world does not do hypes, they didn't decide to start with wayland because of the craving for a novelty system, they actually weighed the cost of development of wayland against the cost of maintaining X11, and wayland came out on top.
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alright. How?
Set WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm/custom.conf and relogin.
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Known issues with Wayland that the devs don't want to fix. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wayland
screen recording
remote display
Remote desktop and vm applications don't grab input
So yeah. Anyone that wants to use it in the enterprise or for vms, or for screen capturing is out of luck. Since the overwhelming majority of software in existence that do these features don't work/ will never work on wayland, there is a large problem here.
And how to fully purge wayland from the system?
if you don't enable it it don't work. Would you purge the ability to render the colour red from your system if you only use blue and green?
you bet your ass I would.
EDIT: I am also angry right now. I need to chill.
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Don't see why your getting so worked up over it. In any distribution running wayland (almost all of them) you can switch check between Wayland and xorg at login.
In fact, you've probably been using Wayland for a while without even realising it as a lot of distros default to Wayland for the login manager, and default to something (Wayland or xorg) for the desktop manager.
It's as simple as picking what you want and it remembers for next time.
Software development takes time. Amdgpu was a step backwards.. until recently. Even then, you could still call it a step backwards without opengl 4.5 enabled. Does that mean it's bad, of course not, instead you do something about it.
Screen capture isn't not allowed. It's just not allowed by untrusted non system applications. Hense why screen capture works fine in Wayland. Just the current non Wayland applications need to plug into that and work to get that working correctly. Not based on some 30 year old architecture that never considered security.
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that would be all of them.
Yeah, so they need to work on that, it's a shift in architecture. It's not a bad thing, and yeah, not everything is going to work right away, not everything is going to be smooth. That doesn't mean it's bad.
Btw to answer your original question. Green recorder.
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You are missing the purpose of Wayland. To replace X11 in the desktop, to be secure, and faster.
1) whether they will add screen recording capabilities to the Wayland Standard Spec, IDK. It seems to be out of the scope at the moment. However as they have stated, and shown on the weston compositor. That functionality can be implemented on at the compositor level. which is how the gnome recording stuff works. Its just a matter of defining an open/free desktop standard and have all the desktop follow it. its not a Wayland problem.
2) X11 is a network protocol, Wayland is not. Remote desktop can be implemented at the compositor level. Have you use Chrome remote desktop on X11?, works amazing and it does not use X, something like that could be implemented at the compositor level.
3) By grabbing input you mean?
Thanks
Luis
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And we're all benefitting from the lower overhead. X11 has become quite chunky lol
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