Hardware unboxed (and PCper) were down on ryzen 1 before release too, and it turned out to be the hottest thing in 2017-2018, and currently out-selling intel 2:1 in germany where there’s a reseller who shares stats.
I have a lot of respect for Steve’s benchmarking ability, but he (and his sidekick) are overly conservative and quite pro-intel by default IMHO.
I’m not saying they’re intel shills, just that they’re much more conservative and don’t like to speculate. That said, the video’s main beef is pricing - and that AMD simply wouldn’t price things that low if they were competitive.
Well, there is precedent. The 1700X / 1800X was HALF the cost of a 6900K (never mind the X99 platform additional costs) on release and competitive with it in benchmarks. The 2700X right now is extremely cost effective, especially when paired with a board.
And also due to their yields, at THOSE prices, amd can still make money whilst slaughtering intel in market share. Essentially, AMD are buying market share here. They need their name to be the default "go to’ for high performance and right now it isn’t. They need to get a customer base to establish a level of trust and doing that will require some pricing adjustment. But like i said, due to their multi chip strategy, they can afford this due to the die use efficiency they’re getting here.
I’d say the only thing really in doubt here at the moment is the clock speeds. The pricing i feel is ball-park, but i think the 5.0 or 5.1 ghz may be something like 4.7-4.8.
But it depends just how much better TSMC 7nm process is than GloFo 14nm. My suspicion has been for a while that GloFo 14nm is TRASH (compared to intel, samsung, tsmc), and that’s one reason why Polaris and Vega 10 clock so poorly. I’d suggest it is ALSO why Ryzen thus far has clocked so poorly.
I suspect TSMC 16nm would have been better (but AMD were bound to Global Foundries contractually), and their 7nm is going to be even better than that. 5-5.1 ghz? May just be right on the money IMHO. GloFO 14nm is nowhere near intel. TSMC 7nm? Way ahead…
I really feel in 2019-2020, you’re going to see AMD un-chained from the second-third rate 14nm global foundries manufacturing and performance is going to scale up quite a lot.