so iv recently got into doing a water loop in a new pc build and i was wondering given haswells rather lacking over clocking performance if i were to delid and not put the lid back on but instead put the cpu block directly on top of the cpu would that cause a temp drop with much better over clocking results (given i do know haswell is overall seeming to be less stable because of it also handling part of the speeds/voltages)? or is this just not advisable?
anybody try this? i understand that spacing/pressure may be an issue but i think i could work around that with some proper length screws and nuts. id love to hear your thoughts.
Delidding has become pretty common practice since Intel decided to replace the fluxless solder with cheap TIM. If you do so, you will see significantly improved temps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eFzNpTOaOw
Just be careful to insure your CPU does not go flying.
lol ya, i think its weird though that most of the deliding videos iv seen have also reinstalled the lid with a better tim instead of running without a lid at all, it makes me wonder what im missing if anything.
Yeah, direct-die is very possible. Depending on your loop, the biggest problem is spacing and condensation. Were you using a water chiller, such as a ghetto-ass AC unit rig, then the die can actually get saturated with water from the condensation at the blocks. Condensation isn't as much of an issue at ambient temps and upwards, but something to consider.
For EK blocks (perhaps only the Supremacy), EK makes a spacer kit that replaces the stock mounting hardware for direct-die mounting. It DOES NOT work with other blocks guaranteed, so your best bet is to machine some super simple spacers yourself.
so just an interesting update i posted the same question on an asus diy video hoping jj would respond and HE DID great guy, "I would strongly advise against it. A lot of information has been incorrectly been accepted by the enthusiast community regarding the impact of the thermal material used in Haswell CPUs. Lithography has a much bigger impact than anything else along with with the switching frequency of the FIVR. Overall the best you can do is ensure you have a quality cpu cooler and ensure you are reasonable on the voltages when overclocking. Thanks for the view and support and Best Of Luck!" -jj asus diy
Just because they recommend against it doesn't mean there aren't massive potential thermal performance increases from delidding. People have been doing direct-die for years.