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PinePhone Hub - Linux Phones

I personally am unfamiliar with Linux, but feel free to ask any questions about it here, and I’ll try my best to answer them, and another PinePhone owner may step in with the answer your looking for.


Specs:

  • CPU - Allwinner A64 Quad Core SoC
  • GPU - Mali 400 MP2
  • RAM - 2GB LPDDR3
  • Storage - 16GB eMMC + Micro SD up to 2TB
  • Screen - 5.95″ LCD 1440×720, 18:9 aspect ratio

Price $150

More specs here:
https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/


Links:

Links I share in this thread are NOT affiliation links.


The Experiences so Far:

Functionality Table:

Distro In Call Out Call Call Quality Camera Notes
Manjaro Phosh 4 4 3 0
Mobian (Debian) 2

Legend:
5 - Flawless
4 - Good
3 - Passable
2 - Poorly
1 - Unusable
0 - Not at all

Reveiws:

Manjaro ARM

TeckMonster:
Build: alpha 5
It’s unusable IMO.
Feels so much more responsive than Ubuntu.
Has an easy to use and understand interface.
Applications freeze regularly.
App store doesn’t appear to work.
Launcher completely broke when I did a “stable” system update. Same thing after reinstall.

Manjaro ARM Phosh

TeckMonster:
Build: alpha1-20200731
It’s kinda usable, just need patience.
Scrolling feels somewhat smooth.
There’s not much transition animations, which is good since this phone displays them at like 5fps.
It seems fairly stable (crashed once, but didn’t have to restart).
Can watch YT videos.
Sound works.
FireFox is slow.
Keyboard sucks.

Slowly written on PinePhone, running Manjaro Phosh.

Mobian (Debian)

TeckMonster:
Feels really good. Smoother than Manjaro
I was looking forward to this one, but it’s too unstable. It froze in the middle of updating, and the store doesn’t seem to work for updates at all. Also the settings will just crash when you click on some menu options.
FireFox is unusable.
I may reinstall later to see if something got broke during the update.

PostmarketOS
Ubuntu Touch

TeckMonster:
I personally am not interested in this, but came on the phone, so my first impressions was it has a unnecessarily steep learning curve, and scrolling and dragging feels much slower than Manjaro.


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Unfamiliar with linux ? The phone might represent a giant leap…

Personally I am waiting for them to nail down the whole premise of existing.

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Yup, I understand that it’s a pretty large leap, but the phone’s so affordable I’m not worried about it, and I’m learning a little, and having fun playing with it. I’d say it’s worth it IMO.

It’ll also be fun to see how the OS’es evolve over time.

Not Apple or Google? That’s good enough for me.

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I am all for exploring and learning… I am just waiting for the basic premise to work well. Then I am in…

I suspect the major phone carriers are not going to wanna play ball.

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I’m unfamiliar with Linux, but feel free to ask me any questions about it

How does the physical hardware feel, in your opinion?

It comes with a screen protector that feels plastic, and I’m probably not going to remove it for now.
The back cover is made out of plastic and it feels pretty cheap IMO.

I do like the clean design aside from the big UBports logo that kills that clean design. Looks easy to remove though, which I will likely try.

Over all it feels cheap, but if you look at it without touching it looks pretty good.

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Do you miss all the apps on the big two phone OS’s?

that was my only drawback from an MX4.

I presume video playback from Youtube etc is okay?

wouldn’t it be funny if OP was Louis Rossmann

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It is… judging by the sound and the comments. At least the beginning of the vid :stuck_out_tongue:

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They’ll never be sold direct by carriers but in Europe at least that doesn’t matter (assuming they can become profitable) as there’s no real requirement for ‘carrier support’

Lol. I wasn’t that bad. I did boot it up with the tape on the phone, but when I realized it wasn’t charging I knew what to do. They really should have used plastic that wasn’t completely clear.

edit: That guy sounds like a dick… I wouldn’t ban anyone for seemingly trying to help.
Also sounds like he’s trying way to hard to sound smart.

Replied with PinePhone, running Manjaro Phosh.

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Nope, because I still daily my Android.

Replied with PinePhone, running Manjaro Phosh.

I did a thing, but this OS is not daily-able. Though it’s my favorite so far.

I think I’m going to need to pickup another sim. I can’t put my sim in something so unusable.

All the above done on PinePhone running Manjaro Phosh.


Picture from Android since I can’t be bothered to setup up a screenshot tool that may or may not exist:

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Mint has them for cheap

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I can see why… Thats the full on firefox desktop app running. Whats the bets its using up all your ram.

I have a funny feeling that the reason it may be slow is because the software is likely horribly un-optimised and there are few if any programs made for the device.

As far as i can tell these ARM distros have the same problem a number of distros have. The team are compiler teams, the build the source code for the platform. They dont engineer programs for the specific platform, so the programs were never specifically made or altered to be tailored for these kind of devices that really need highly optimised and efficient code.

I bet you could make this phone blazing fast if you stripped out all the cruft

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This is why I’m tempted. :thinking:


Was the Ubuntu touch environment stable? I enjoyed it on my op3, but it wasn’t stable.

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Those plans are cheap. I’ll keep them in mind, but for now I just went to a local story and got one from there. Thanks though!

I’ll have to look into this. It did come with another mobile focused browser, but it seemed even worse.

I’ll give it another shot, but it’s definitely not my distro of choice. I didn’t spend enough time with it to answer that now.


Can confirm Manjaro Phosh can make and receive calls or texts even when it’s sleeping. This experience is pretty good, but the the sound quality is fairly bad, though completely understandable.

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Hmmm, sounds like we’re getting close on Manjaro.

What a world that an Arch spin is the standard of stability. :roll_eyes:

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BRB installing dwm on the pinephone.

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I mean… its better than the other options.

I wonder how hard it would be to have a custom sms app, phone app, keyboard and minimal ui specific for the platform. bet it would be nice and speedy

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