PCPer CPU, GPU bottleneck examples. Great article

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Something worth noting though is that people have been saying that DX12 should put some more life into the 8350. However, judging from the Mantle results here, it seems that the difference with Mantle is the same with both Intel and AMD cpus.

Given that DX12 is supposedly just a ripped off Mantle, I expect that the difference with DX12 should be basically the same as with Mantle, so I think that this is an apt enough insight into the performance that we will be seeing. That removes one of the main reasons to go with AMD for the cpu on current builds. Hell, these results are showing me that the 8350 performs closer to the i3 than the i5, which means that it isn't even a good value option so long as it is priced between the i3 and the locked i5 (which is the price that it has been sitting at for a long time now). Even most of the rendering and Adobe benchmarks that I have seen put the i5 ahead of the 8350 (though that is a bit off topic). Looks like the only real reason to go with an 8350 is if you like AMD.

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yes indeed, DX12 and mantle, low level api, Basicly will take some overhead away from the cpu.
So in other words, both intel and AMD cpuĀ“s will benefit from it, depending on the gpu you have.

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What I think will be really interesting, is what will happen when devs start to use the left over cpu power from DX12. I don't think it will be long after DX12's launch that devs will start to work on adding tasks to the cpu, that otherwise would have crippled the cpu under DX11. There is going to be all that overhead, and its exciting to me to think about what could be added now that all that horsepower is freed up.

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That would indeed be an interessting thing, but only time will tell us.

@1920_1080p_1280_720p maybe we should make a nice summary topic about this some day, with some good articles and trust worthy benchmarks, or if there are enthusiast Community members who can deliver their own benchmarks would be a cool thing maybe.
Just to get all the proĀ“s and conĀ“s in a complete picture for everyone.

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I started writing something up earlier. I'll get back to that hopefully later tonight.

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I understand what you're saying but I don't agree with the comparison there.

I do see the 4460 as a great value now after these results, and it was refreshing to see what seems to be an unbiased and well written review/test. However, the big comparison right now in my mind is the FX- 8350 vs i5 4790K vs i7 5930K. I think those are the three most popular and most compared CPU's. When you do that the cost/performance ratio for the AMD chip skyrockets.

You also have the 6 cores picking up steam for intel, which in my opinion if I was going to go the 4790K or 5930K route I would get an i7-5820K, whichever X99 board floated my boat and the DDR4 RAM and call it a day. At least this is what has been playing around in my head for weeks. I did get an 8350 because of the price I scored it at, but I have not bought RAM or a MOBO yet because there's still a tiny fragment of my mind that's looking over at the intel side.

If the Xeon 1231 V3 was over clockable that's the route I would take in a heartbeat hands down.

As I had discussed in a different thread with a few others, at least in my boat right this moment, I think going the less expensive route on the CPU makes more sense as I know full well with Zen & Skylake on the horizon that whatever I do get now will be short lived in my PC, unless I get a 6 core, but that brings additional expenses as well.......

Would I upgrade from an older AMD 6300 to the 8350 if I had one, no I would not. I wouldn't upgrade from an older Intel chip to it either.

But I think it fits the bill in my situation.......

But the i5 you mention from this test does deserve a good look. And it was crazy to see the poor performance from the i7 in some of the benchmarks. Ouch!

We also have no clue what route developers will take after DirectX12 is out. If they start optimizing games down the road to take advantage of multiple cores the landscape I believe will change drastically.

Just my $0.02 anyhow and I basically just got here yesterday so very far from an expert on any subject on this forum. Just like the discussions because that's how I learn. No fanboyism here, just want the best product for the job at hand, but I always take a hard look at the performance you get for said price myself. And it's just about wanting the most value I can get in something, not strictly looking at things from a price point of view.

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How is that processor working out for you? (Xeon)

I came across it recently doing some research.

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It knocks the socks off any I5 in multithreaded workloads, and its as fast in games. Best bang for buck cpu intel sells IMO. All the multithreaded performance of the I7's (Lga 1150) but the price of a I5 4690k.

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What we are saying here is that with all else being equal, you are looking at a comparison of the 8350 and a mobo with a locked i5 and a mobo. They will come out to be roughly the same price, as the i5 can use a cheaper mobo (and has better access to newer features such as m.2). So assuming that you are looking to build right now, those two options will cost about the same (assuming you don't skimp on the mobo for either). Same price, but the i5 performs better in the majority of cases and consumes less power and puts out less heat and does better in single threaded applications (and there are tons of applications which only use one core still, especially older applications/games). So why should you get an 8350 instead of an i5? It just doesn't make sense any more.

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Gotcha, well I'll be damned.......

Just when I was settled on my build lol......

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Well if you are going with a 380 or less, based on these numbers, I would suggest getting something cheap like an 860k build and then hold out until Zen.

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I bought an R9 Fury :)

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Welp..............

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See here ........