If you’ve been living under a rock recently, you might not know that Patreon have come out and said (explicitly) that they will de-platform people based on their arbitrary decision regardless of what their terms of service say and regardless of where the “rule breaking” (that they determine at the time) takes place.
This resulted in Sargon of Akkad (among others at other times) being de-platformed from their site in December when he talked back against white supremacists when he used their own language against them.
Keep in mind, this was on someone elses stream, not on patreon, and in context his wording was a bit crass but nothing really wrong with it. Patreon decided that although it wasnt against their terms of service, the mob didnt like him, and they didnt like him, so removed him.
In a call Matt Christiansen had with Jacqueline Hart from Patreons “Trust and Saftey” team, (a call they insisted must be kept private) Patreon has made it pretty clear on their goal. The terms and service do not matter when it comes to de-platforming people. Patreon will decide on a case by case basis who they want to remove, regardless if they are within their terms of service. They also made it clear that they will remove you even if you say something outside of patreons platform they they deam something they don’t like.
There is no appeals, there are no rules. If you want to speak, they suggest you check with them first to see if its OK for you to say it.
You can watch his video on it here:
And the transcript of the secret call here:
Sam Harris makes a good small point on this, and why hes left Patreon:
You can also listen to 1791’s video on their call to patreon (which they cannot share)
As a result of banning people off their platform for… basically not liking who they are and that they aren’t on “their side”, the side affect has left other patreon people with losing money and patrons.
This month, Dave Ruben, and Jordan Peterson are also leaving Patreon.
Interestingly, theres also apparently evidence to suggest Patreon colluded with Paypal in an attempt to shut down and hinder competition (SubscribeStart most notably) affecting many people also.
Regardless of the politics or otherwise, what pareon is doing isnt great. While they can cater to whoever they please, what they’re actually doing is attempting to use their power to shut down people they dont like and shut down competition (the latter being completely illegal). If it was in their terms of service it would be even more fine, but they have made it clear that it not, wont be, and they will arbitrarily decide who they want to shut down and when based on anything they decide to make up at the time.
There not the kind of place i want taking a cut of my money either if this is how they plan to do business, so no more from me either.