Hey, So a while ago I tried overclocking my AMD FX 8350 to 4.2GHz Using AMD's Overdrive software. The only problem was, it made everything run slower. My boot up time was increased, and so was the time it took to load programs, games etc. But, it was perfectly fine in my games as I did get a performance increase and it didn't crash or get too hot. I also saw increased performance in Unigine Heaven. I then decided the small performance boost wasn't worth all the waiting I had to do for things to load. It took me over 3 mins to boot my computer up! In the end I simply restored the default settings returning my CPU to 4.0Ghz, it runs perfectly fine now.
Any suggestions are appreciated and I am by no means an expert on overclocking, that was my first time and I have been heavily discouraged from doing it again. Haha
The issue, although strange, is most likely down to the fact you overclocked through software (the wrong way if you want it done correctly) and not through your BIOS (the right way).
I also wouldn't be overclocking if you don't have a water cooling system for your build. Primarily because of the fact your CPU will run at a much higher heat if it's overclocked
People should Never overclock. Certain times increasing the clock speed can decrease your floating point performance, It also decreases the lifetime of components significantly. You can fry a cpu in a week regardless of whether or not it is "stable" or any of the other bullshit terms. Just like putting 110 octane gas in an engine isnt actually good. in the end you will just damage your o-rings. You may see an extra few fps but you are slowly killing your cpu. I commemorate you for removing your overclock and making the right choice.
You can fry a cpu in a week regardless of whether or not it is "stable" or any of the other bullshit terms.
You may see an extra few fps but you are slowly killing your cpu
so which is it? slow or quickly?
also, you must not know what octane means cause if you put 110 octane your car will run fine as long as it's still gasoline, other fuels such as methane can have an octane rating of 110 and of course that will ruin your engine as it's not gasoline. octane is the rating of how likely the fuel will ignite on it's own in various compressions and temperatures. for example 100 octane is less likely to spontaneously ignite than say 87 octane gas under similar temps and pressures.
Heat is what causes a CPU to die not clock speed, if you can keep voltages and heat down then there is no problem with overclocking. Silicon can handle frequency just fine, its the heat that gets to it.
It depends on the cpu, ever heard of the silicon lottery?
And putting higher octane fuel in you engine slowly wears your o-rings. Just as putting higher voltage in your cpu slowly wears it down, sometimes they die fast. I have killed a few cpu's in my day. one time when I overvlted a p4 and rose its frequency by a mere few hundred mhz it died the second prime 95 was started to test it. the die its self was only operating at 70c when started.
Also processor pathways are like a rubber tube that has been pressurized. If you add extra pressure to the tube it will stretch then return to its original shape. But if you add heat it will be damaged and not return to its original shape. This is the same principle as increasing the voltage in your processor. If you do not manage the excess heat your processor pathways will be damaged.
bro you have no idea what you are talking about please stop making incorrect analogies of things you've heard from uninformed persons. just running your engine will cause your o-rings to wear, it's called simply, wear and tear. putting higher octane gasoline in your engine will have no effect on your o-rings unless the octane rating is too low for that particular engine, whereas knock(pre- ignition combustion) will in fact damage your o-rings, and valves and gaskets. i think you are mistaking high octane fuels that are other than unleaded gasoline, as those will indeed put premature wear on your o-rings, but if it's just high octane unleaded gasoline it has no effect on your engine, bad or good. can you please site proof where high octane gasoline will prematurely wear out your o-rings?
Stop talking about Pentium 4's. They are 10 year old chips and are completely eralivent with todays CPU's. Yes overclocking can kill a CPU but I think you fail to understand the binning process. What happens is they design a chip, in production of said chips, they find out which chips are capable of what speeds and then sell them clocked at such speeds. 8320, 8350, 9590. Their all just the same chip (From my knowledge) clocked at different speeds. If their binning for 9590's they see if a range of chips can manage 5ghz. if they can their kept, if they cant their binned for lower speed chips. But that dosent mean a 8350 binned chip wont be able to do 5ghz. Just means it needs a bit more voltage. And voltage wont kill the chip after a week unless your running it with stupid unnecessary over voltage and not enough cooling and even then you would have to push the card to insanity.
on air for 4770k's atleast the safe voltage is 1.4V, water about 1.6. liquid nitrogen 1.9. notice as how the voltage increases with the decrees of temperature? Overclocking is a science. If it was as bad as you say, Intel and AMD would not allow for their cards to be overclocked and there would not be an overclocking community. By 477k has run for months at a clock speed of 4.7, There has been no degrading performance due to excess wear and damage to the chip, the chip did not self destruct. All is well k? Yes there is a risk, but for eevry chip that dies, hundreds are overclocked and are stable and do not have a premature death.
Oh and your completely wrong with octane of fuel. A lower octane fuel is more likely to cause damage to and engine than higher octane. Higher octane burns cleaner and is needed in higher performance vehicles for the fact that higher octane does not wear the engine like lower octane fuels.
If your system has gotten slower, then run CPU-z and monitor the clock speed. depending on your board and voltage, there is a chance that the VRM protection is kicking in, which will cause the CPU to throttle if the board cannot provide enough power. For the FX 8350, overclocking on anything less than an 8 phase power board, is not recommended
The 8350 is a good overclocker, but it requires a lot of power, a decent overclock will easily cause it to pull 200 watts.
Overclocking is safe as long as you stay below certain voltage limits, and certain temperatures
For the 8350, stay under 70C also stay under 1.45V on air cooling, and under 1.5 for liquid cooling.
Before overclocking any high TDP CPU, always check what your motherboard can handle. look at how many power phases it has, and check if they have a heatsink, if they are not heatsinked, then look at the model number and pull up a datasheet to see how many amps they are rated for, and then buy a heatsink for them.
If you board is using 4+2 phase power, then keep the CPU at stock clock speeds, and be happy that the VRM's did not fail already.
Few points here, some already pointed out, but I am reiterating them to drive them home.
(A) Higher octane fuel has no effect on your car. You engine being ON slowly wears out o-rings, the gas has nothing to do with it unless you run low octane fuel in an engine that needs high octane.
(B) I haven't killed a CPU since the Thunderbird years, and that was due to condensation from DICE cooling. Heat is the ONLY issue, with current desktop chips 70C is a good stress test max for 24/7 use. It takes a fair amount of voltage to do that if you have even a Hyper 210 ($30 heatsink) on the chip. I am running a 3570k at 4.8GHZ under water topping out at ~60C after delidding the bad boy. Been running that under heavy loads for 2 years now, not a single issue with it.
(C) A P4 Northwood would do a few hundred mhz with no extra voltage. If you overvolted it you were likely shoving WAY too much and burned the processor out based on your own stupidity. 70C at idle is extremely high, that sounds like you were cramming somewhere in the 2.0-2.4v range on the stock HSF. Those are high even by LN2 standards. Overclocking is safer that it ever was nowadays with thermal limits, motherboards limiting voltage, and resilient chips. It takes some serious RTFM moments to kill anything within the past 4-5 years.
(D) The silicon lottery is how high your particular chip will clock on a certian voltage. For example, my i5 3570k hits 4.8GHZ on 1.27v. That is a pretty good chip, well binned. A worse chip may take 1.37v to hit that same ceiling. That is the silicon lottery, it is a euphemism for how your chip fares in the binning process.
The purpose of a heatpipe is to draw heat away by boiling a liquid in a low-pressure environment and having it condense at the top, causing it to cool down. Alcohol is a common liquid to use, ammonia is another. Freon? Not so much as you would need a compressor to keep it in the liquid phase. He was correct with his assertion, heatpipes are a liquid-based cooler, just not what most people think of when liquid-cooling is mentioned.
Problem - overclocking with software. Do it properly in the BIOS. If unsure read one of the hundreds of guides around on overclocking. Plus as stated prior be sure to have a decent motherboard (+ cooling), not having a adequate power delivery to the cpu will end in tears and a cooked board.