OpenSUSE Tumbleweed vs Leap

Just wondering what the difference is between the two of them. It looks like Tumbleweed are stable releases and Leap looks to be the unstable/testing release. I figure I would check just to be sure.

Other way around.

Leap uses a stable core and current programs/packages

Tumbleweed is all testing. However I use tumbleweed as my daily OS and I find it more stable than leap for my use case.

What @Tjj226_Angel said.

Tumbleweed is for developers and/or people who want a more bleeding edge distro.

Leap is 'theoretically' more for desktop use, but not really. Leap is easier to use with third party drivers like Nvidia typically.

I personally use and very much love Tumbleweed. I would expect to see Leap in a more business like setting.

For the love of what you believe in, do not use tumbleweed if you have an AMD gpu, it's really unstable right now. Plus I wouldn't use tumbleweed if use it as a daily driver, you'll waste time troubleshooting then getting work done.

What?

Opensuse tumbleweed uses the AMD gpu kernel driver. It works right out of the box with most modern AMD gpus.

The only issue tumbleweed has right now is that it is using kernel 4.7 and Nvidia has not made a driver for it yet.

Also, I would make the argument that tumbleweed requires less maintenance than ubuntu.

I am STILL having issues with older packaged in the ubuntu repos.

Are you sure? The way the site has it worded makes me believe that it is the other way around.

Any BTRFS issues???

No, fuck btrfs.

when you install opensuse it actually gives you the option to change the file system to ext4.

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Where the OS is stored, right?

Sure, then it just freezes the system at random intervals, then crashes the system. I have a 390X so don't know if it "works out of the box".

Mmmm to be fair, that happens with any AMD card on any OS. : P

But you could always just disable the AMD kernel driver and then use the linux amd drivers.

I do not understand the question.

Nvm, I'm more curious about the other question, I don't think you saw it

I asked if you were sure about the distributions (Scroll up if you haven't seen it)

Define

For me, cause I just left everything default to get a baseline. I'm new to tumbleweed but I've recently been researching on what the changes are such as the new mesa support from amd (opensource driver), you may know something that I don't.

Plus, I've never had a GPU issue on windows, it just works.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Did you use BTRFS? If so, kill it and only use EXT4.

BTRFS is cancer and just infects everything. Trust me.

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I always use Ext4 for my builds since it's far more stable.

Not sure where your coming from with that. There's no issues with btrfs for day to day use. If there is something more than its cancer trust me would be better. (Beucse I'm actually interested in any legitimate issues )

The biggest issue by far is that it has a tendency to corrupt data in the event of a sudden power loss.

This is still a problem in modern kernels, but in older kernels, btrfs was a ticking time bomb for data.

I originally found this issue when I was running opensuse on my laptop. The battery would obviously die sometimes and I would power my system back on just to find out that the OS blew itself up.

I did some research and sure enough, a good number of people had the same issue.

Ever since then, even more issues have been cropping up. Raid performance for instance is piss poor, and performance overall is second rate to ext4.

The other great thing about btrfs is that there is 0 support for it on windows or mac. Some people have tried making a driver, but it does not work 100% yet.

Oh and then the final nail in the coffin is that some programs don't even work when they are installed on a btrfs partition. Bioshock infinite is probably the most famous example.

So its buggy, poor performing, not well supported, and it might not even run the program you want.

And all you get in return is the ability to take snap shots of your system. Wellllll woopty fucking do.

I would much rather use EXT4 or XFS and simply either image my hard drive or make my own custom distro install disk. Which by the way is really easy to do with opensuse studio.

What makes it cancer more than anything else is that groups like opensuse think its great because its stable and gives you great features.

But the reality is that it is only a good file system on paper. And the most dangerous and deadly cancer is the one that all the doctors say is benign.