(Not) Private internet acess

Today I bit the bullet and decided to try private internet access for one month. As I went to the checkout I encountered many problems:


A: If one were to pay with paypal an account with linked creditcard and submission to a contract legally binding you to pay them $7 a month (or more) is required. 


(I really do not want to provide first last name, adress, social security number and infinite dept to them.) 


B: The customer support reps. are assholes. Basically told me to fuck off and take my money elsewhere.


C: Their "anonymous payment" isn't  anonymous at all. They log the ip and credentials of the purchaser.

 

I wonder how tek syndicate could stand behind such a horrible product. 

If I'm wrong in any way shape or forum please tell me.

 

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Forgot to mention that their "anonymous payment" Costs a significant more amount than anything else.

The anonymous payment method has to cost more because they are causing themselves hassle by accepting things like gift cards and whatnot. It isn't very reasonable to expect them to charge the same amount when they have to go through more to get the money. If you are worried about ip logging, then any vpn will be sub-par, because they can all log your ip when you make an account or log in to it (you could create the account with a public computer at a library or something though). PIA has said that they don't log any user data (http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/), so you basically have to take their word for it. Any vpn can log ips though so just keep that in mind. There is always a way to beat the system that you put in place.

I understand that you had a bad experience with the rep, but that doesn't make the company bad, nor does it make what they sell any less of what it is. He might have had a bad day, they might have been swamped and not wanted to deal with answering too many questions, they might get enough business that it simply isn't worth their time to try to accommodate everyone and as such are comfortable with suggesting that their service might just not be right for you. Sure that isn't ideal, but what is these days?

If you are worried about them logging your info when you make an account, then you shouldn't be considering anything other than the price of the anonymous methods in the first place, and not many vpns iirc offer that feature, sooooooo.

I had a similar issue with VyperVPN which of all the VPN's I have tried had the best speed and largest number of servers at the time, I checked the privacy agreement and basically it said that if you do something that someone does not like and we trace it back to you, you are viable and they logged data. I ended up contacting Logan and after a while the adds for vypervpn were removed though he never completed the video he was planing on asking multipul VPN services how they handle data.

Im currently on IPVanish which seems to be the best at the moment. No logs, I believe they still ask for billing address but from what I can see, their upfront and honest about their service and while not the cheapest service, they have a nice set of servers. Sadly their Auckland server is shocking but their Australian servers are not half bad. Living in a corner of the globe surrounded by nothing but water and a local country with a shitty government does not help.

Personally I think if their true to their word about not logging your data then unless there is a massive crack down on all users of that service say VPN's become illegal then you should be fine. Its a pain and more research needs to be done on how safe a VPN is but its better than none.

Heres a list of VPN's that I use in finding which VPN to use.

http://torrentfreak.com/which-vpn-services-take-your-anonymity-seriously-2014-edition-140315/

They went through no hassle except for a few minutes of html work and lawyer fees, they use an unrelated service to gain payment. I don't mind it being more costly but i do mind it being around 50%more for a single month. PIA only said they dont log what you do nothing about who you are. 

I appreciate you sharing your opinion. 

im my opinnion every VPN server logs your data. ☺

Your missing the point. The reason people use a vpn is to mask the data itself, not the IP. The IP is irrelevant, considering the ISP is the issuer and can see what other IPs you connect to with your IP, they already know your connecting to a VPN service. You cant have the huge presence of an ISP and not know what the Common VPN addresses are. Simply put, the ISP will always know your connecting to a VPN, and you cant change that.

The only thing anyone should be worried about is whether or not the connection to the VPN is secure. Making sure that strong encryption is applied to the connection is the important bit. After it reaches the VPN safely, the data gets sent to its true destination from a random rotating port via the VPNs IP, and that cant be traced to you by anyone. PIA states that they do not keep your DATA TRAFFIC, not your IP address. As far as using it in the payment process, they are required to obtain some information about you and your location to use in case a claim of fraudulent credit card use pops up. If they were keeping anything else, we would have heard about since the NSA would have subpoenaed the information and somebody would have gone to jail afterword. Since that has yet to happen with PIA, its safe assume they aren't lying about not logging your traffic data.

The whole point of a VPN is plausible deniability. Yes you have a VPN, but simply using a VPN is not proof of doing anything illegal or wrong. Just like keeping a .45 and a shovel in the trunk of your car does not automatically mean your a serial killer. As long as nobody can tell what your doing with either one, you have nothing to worry about.

Opinion is an opinion. I would rather base my decisions on facts, not opinions.

So.... you trust Paypal (owned by Ebay) with your personal info more than a VPN?

Honestly these VPN services are there to provide you an "increased degree of anonymity" not to make you invisible to the world.
Also I don't understand how you can get so irritated about the company when they state they do not do anything with the little bit of data they do collect. Terms and Conditions seem very strait forward to me.
It makes me wonder what are you doing on the internet  that is so secret that letting a company have your IP or billing info is so bad. Unless you have lived in a cave for the last however many years - trust me someone somewhere has all that info anyway.
If you have ever used a Google service, most Microsoft services, Yahoo and other services like that, then you have forfeited all that data anyway.
I honestly do not know if there is a way to be 100% invisible and not be doing anything illegal at all. I could be wrong on that.

The idea I think is to reduce data leaks as much as possible.
And as a disclaimer for the trolls - I am all about privacy. 100%. I used PIA for about 3-4 months and I thought it worked well. I ended up not using it anymore, because lets be honest I'm a google user - and it didn't help the Netflix traffic - made it slower, but I have really good internet unlike so many others.
 

I trust PIA actually ! I am really pleased with them !

 

EDIT: Realized the guy above me said everything I did...

Privacy should be the concern as to why to use a VPN; it sounds more like you're trying to not get into trouble. If that's the case, I don't think TekSyndicate condones illegal behavior. In the off-chance that you're just a paranoid tin-foil hat wearer, people that want to know where you live and who you are, already do.

1. Buy a VPS

2. Install Debian or CentOS

3. Install & Configure OpenVPN

4. Use DM-Crypt to encrypt the VPS. 

5. Problem solved?

If you're paranoid pipe the traffic from your VPS to a paid VPN like PIA and use it as an exit. If you're really nuts run TOR on your client behind all that. Your privacy is your responsibility and depending on your needs you will need to become technically literate enough to implement such a system.

I regularly make paypal accounts with fake names etc for purchasing things online. Money is deposited from selling items on other forums and receiving a gift payment for said item.

However in the case of PIA I must provide at a minimum my real address, credit card number and/ or bank account and in some rare cases even my social security number. You can not use any funds in your account. Only withdraw from a bank/credit card.