Hi,
I want to get this case however I have some questions regarding the psu it comes with.
Would this support a stock 3570 8gb ddr3 and a 7950 dual x 3gb with boost? Sapphire recommends. 500w psu for this but could I get away with a 450w psu as nothing is overclocked.
Thanks
I have a 280x (very similar to a 7950) and a 4430 (very similar to a 3570). Power draw from the wall while gaming is below 350watt max. 450watt should be fine. Just don't OC the gpu and then run prime95 and furmark simultaneously.
My last comment got my curious, so I broke out my killowatt, downloaded prim95 and furmark and started it all up. Maxed at about 445watt pulled from the wall. You have plenty of headroom.
EDIT: I should clarify in case you didn't know these things. The rating of the psu is how much it can deliver, not how much it can pull from the wall. Factoring in an estimation of 90% efficiency, and you are looking at about 495watt pulled from the wall with the included psu being within spec. So, overclocked, and torturing the cpu and gpu, you are still within the spec of that psu. You are really fine.
For reference: my FX-8350 OC'd to 4.5 Ghz, 8 GB of DDR3 @ 1.65V and 2133 MHz, AND my GTX 980 @ 1500 MHz all pull a MAX of 511 watts from the wall when ALL are capped on load in the most unrealistic torture test ever, so I'm pretty sure your gear would be fine in that case with that PSU :-)
Wait I am a bit confused so the node 202 comes with a 450w 80 plus bronze power supply could you explain that to me again.
Does that mean it's 90% efficient? So can draw more than 450w to power the components?
Well, like why the Node 202? It's just kind of a slim microATX case rather than a proper compact ITX case
Have you already looked at the Core 500 or Elite 130? They support ATX PSUs
No, the efficiency ratings indicate how much of the power supply's power production is actually used by the PC versus what gets lost as waste heat or leakage elsewhere in the power supply. For example: if you hook up a Kill-O-Watt into your power outlet, plug in your PC, then do a full system power draw test, you will see that a certain wattage score will appear: if your PSU has a 90% efficiency rating, that means that 90% of that power draw is being given to your parts, while the rest of that is extra that has to be drawn to overcome resistances in the PSU, leakage, or just lost as waste heat.
This article from Hardwaresecrets does a pretty decent job explaing the 80+ efficiency scale further: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/understanding-the-80-plus-certification/
Because I like that type of mini Itx case and it fits more easily by my television hence my question am trying to work out whether I need to by a higher wattage psu or whethe the integra will do.
Probably enough, your only other option is a highly expensive Silverstone PSU that's recommended by Jonnyguru, but has terrible reviews here, and costs $140, which is why a standard ITX case with ATX PSU support makes more sense for performance per dollar
This one seems to be available in the UK but is only 50w more?
Probably not worth it?
If it's not much more probably, the reviews don't look terrible
Another problem is that the only spare atx power supply I have is a CX 600 and I have read on here and another places that it is the devil of psu. If I need another one anyway I may as well get the case I want.
It's not that bad, it's in hundreds of systems by now, it's just average, it'll be fine if you don't OC and you'd save a bunch of money in the process going with either of the ones I listed, the Core 500 is just a bit bigger with 240mm radiator support, but both should fit your GPU in just fine
Or OP could go with the Node 202 like they were looking at since the 450 watt PSU should be plenty fine for it.
I do like the core 500, would the core 500 be more compact and get better temps?
Not more compact, but temps will probably be better. Read the dimensions, that will tell you relatively how they compare.
It's a different form factor, the Elite 130 is more compact cuz no radiator support, but it's more of a standard box, with more standard component support, I'm really not sure why they made the node 202 with better options as far as overall ITX cases goes, especially for the money
Cool, I think I will save myself some money and just get a core 500 I was hesitant because of the bad press around the CX 600 lol especially on sites like PC part picker where if anyone uses it there is like 5 comments saying they need to change it.
Been using a CX750M for over a year with no issues at all. Powering an FX6300 and an R9 280 Windforce OC. You have to take reviews on stuff with a grain of salt.
The reality of the matter is that most failed components end up failing due to damage in transit not because of bad manufacturing or quality assurance.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=416
not terrible, but not very great, the CX series in a nutshell, if you're buying a new system generally you'd want to go elsewhere, like right now there's a seasonic 620W PSU for fairly cheap that would be a better option