I Love the AMD FX-8350. I also love the Intel Chips just as well. I've noticed its a rarity to find an insane AM3+ mATX motherboard. Do you think the Intels have better options with motherboards?
If the Asus Rampage Gene existed for the 8350 I would of been sold. Anyone else feel the same way?
Yes, Intel have a better selection of motherboards.
JJ from ASUS actually mentioned that ASUS had an AM3+ mITX solution, but it never made it to market. There should be a greater availability of different form factors, but everyone seems reluctant to improve the socket with the inclusion of some simple features.
asus is working on matx, mini itx and thin mini itx solutions for AM3+ currently
Its a nice form factor I'm just surprised there isn't that many for Am3+ yet.
I know that feel
as an owner of an 8350 i too see no love for the chip when it comes to mobos, which sucks because it is an awsome cpu.
There are some really, really nice ATX AM3+ motherboards, but, if you want a decent mATX experience, or an mITX experience at all, you need to go Intel, because the boards just aren't there. Disappointing, but true :(
When I saw the Asus Impact Mini-Itx. I just thought where's the Am3+ mobo? I dont have nothing against intel. I've been using them for quite awhile now. But I've just never used AMD processors. And always wanted to try them out.
It all came down to a smear campaign decision. Pretty much all of the reviewers who reviewed the FX-8350 when it launched gave it bad reviews just because it doesn't measure up to Intel in IPC performance. From a financial standpoint motherboard manufacturers didn't want to spend fuckloads of money in a platform that wasn't going to sell real well so they decided to steer away from well built small form factor motherboards for AM3+.
There's also the fact that AM3+ is a zombie socket. If AMD would commit to continuing the platform with Steamroller and beyond, it would make the mobo folks more likely to invest the requisite R/D to produce nice MiniAtx boards.
Not that this excuses the crimes of the past. During one of the 3.2 bazillion YT TS/Asus videos, JJ whined that no one bought Asus' older AM3 Mini boards, but conveniently ignored (as JJ is prone to do) the fact that their offerings were mediocre-at-best. It's somewhat of a chicken/egg situation today, and the Mobo makers must accept some fraction of whatever 'blame' is floating about.
Yeah I know... The MOBO is the main reason I'm going with an Intel build now TBH. If AM3+ had better boards overall I'd get the 8350 in a heartbeat.
I refuse to believe the AM3+ socket is discontinued by steamroller. Call me fanatic.
oh, can't forget our shitty motherboards cost more than simmilar intel boards
to get a full unadulterated chipset it's either 990fx or z87, cheapest z87 board is $95 and has decent reviews, cheapest 990fx board is $110 and it seems every other person has issues
I went with the Asus Crosshair V Formula Z Great board really happy with my fx8350 build, lightly overclocking now ..but I got here the hard way after 2 builds and a RMA from gigabyte 990fxa-ud3 ..I upgraded from a intel Q6600 with a asus maximus extreme so really happy with my investment in AMD also got to play with the 2 UEFI (bios) schemes ASUS stomps Gigabyte hands down. so my only advice is if your going to go with a top of the line AMD chip might as well spend a little extra money on a mother board.
i can only agree with this;
If you wanne go with an FX8350 then also buy a decent mobo for it. like Asus rog, sabertooth. M5A99FX pro R2.0 or Asrock extreme 9. the AMD FX8350 is realy a awesome chip. But never cheap out on a mobo for thease kind of powerful chips. or you will get dissapointed. i can tell you one thing, cheap well feutured mobo´s like the Gigabyte GA-990FXA-ud3 are cheap for a reason. they put everything in the feutures, but not in the power delivery parts, thats why they suck.
Yeah, I've just picked out the components for a rig, and AMD rig comes roughtly 70$ cheaper over here using Sabertooth on AMD and MSI Z87-GD65 on Intel. If I used Sabertooth Z87 on intel as well, the AMD build would be 150$ cheaper.
Steamroller is no longer going to support an FX based processor. Expect an Excavator core sometime in 2015-2016 to bring around a new desktop processor series and it is not going to be on an AM3+ derivative socket. I guarantee that it will be on a new socket that is incompatible with AM3+ because of DDR4.
so steamroller fx didn't got delayed but abandoned?
Well... Shit.
Well my fanaticism didn't last very long there, did it
They ran into some performance issues with the silicon at 28nm on 6 and 8 core CPUs and they lacked the engineers to fix it before production was supposed to start so they kept the APU side of steamroller and are working on excavator instead. I'm pretty confident in asserting that Excavator is going to have native DDR4 support if they are looking at a release date of year 2015 or 2016. This means an entirely new socket and entirely new Northbridge chipset to go with it to support the data traces required of DDR4. Server grade DDR4 is being implemented as early as next year.
Consider this when building a new rig, both new gen consoles will have AMD cpu's and gpu's so they will pretty much dictate the gaming industry for a couple of years. It has been proven over and over again (not just here at the tek, even Linus who is intel/nvidia sponsored) that when it comes to gaming performance AMD processors rival more expensive Intel cpu's but falls behind at basically every other category, but since most of us are just gamers and internet surfers the AMD is a more intelligent and economic way. If you don't want to spare money you can take the money saved and reallocate it to the graphics card budget and gain even more performance, it's really that easy.
Didn't know that, Thank you for elaborating :)