Just built myself a new work machine and my 1800X is floating between 52-60 degrees Celsius when idle. It doesn't seem to break 80 degrees under load (load on all threads using CPUz stress, clock reached just over 4Ghz), but that idle seems too high to just accept as normal. Office building with ambient of 22-28 degrees.
I found a couple of idle temps online showing around 35 degrees (from what I could tell it was 35 specifically on a 240mm AIO).
I first thought it was the H110i bracket and or thermal paste. Reapplied both, all seemed fine, no change. Trying a Phanteks PH-TC12DX AM4 Edition tomorrow to fully rule it out.
All default UEFI settings, no change at all. Running latest UEFI 0502. Power and clocks all look normal (to me at least, can anyone see anything from my screen grabs?)
Admittedly I've only tried the ASUS utility for temp readings (current Corsair Link doesn't appear to be grabbing it yet), so that's something I need to rule out.
I'd appreciate any input, and first post so hopefully I've searched and landed in the correct area.
Specs:
CPU: 1800X GPU: ASUS Phoenix GeForce GTX 1050 2GB RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 F4-2800C16Q-32GRK 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PSU: Corsair CX-750 Modular 80+ Bronze Mainboard: ASUS Prime B350M-A HDD / SSD: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 250GB, unknown Seagate 500GB 2.5 inch 7200rpm CPU Cooler: Corsair H110i with 2 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM's Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Micro Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise, 1607, fully up to date. It is on a domain, but I run a blank policy against it.
Is it idling properly? I'm not sure what voltages Ryzen has, but 1.225v seems pretty high to me, I have an i5 4690k clocked at 4.7ghz on that voltage and I get your temps while running some stress tests.
As far as i know there are reports online of such chips. IDLE they show super high temps, but when stressed out temps don't increase enormously. I would advice to stay calm and relax for the moment as it seems to be rather a bad reading. Don't know for sure. Good luck anyway and post here your findings...
It might just be a quiet pre-set on the h100i. I have never used a corsair cooler, so I don't know what setting it would default to. On the corsair software, it looks like a fan is running at a pretty low speed, which would support the theory that it is just on a quieter configuration. You should be able to adjust the fan speeds with the corsair software I think. If that isn't the issue there is also the possibility that there might be a air bubble in the pump, reducing the water flow.
Use HWiNFO64 for sensor readings and see what it says. There are a lot of monitor programs that can't read the newer sensor in Ryzen. A trick from the olden days of AM2+ as well is to read the socket temps and add 5 degrees. That gets pretty close to what your CPU is reading simply because of how a FCPGA package will sink heat into the socket.
I'll start with monitoring, HWiNFO64 definitely showed a difference (good call, should have used this first). ASUS utility seems to average a little higher, but its still averaging an idle of around 50 degrees. Bios seems to show a average of 61-62 degrees.
@ivailo I have no idea what the stock voltages are meant to be, and coming from Intel they look high to me too. Still looking for some info on this.
You're right @dailan, I did have the fans running a little slower on that screen grab. H110i pump and fans now set to max (temp mentioned above and screen caps taken with max profile). Liquid temp is pretty cool compared to my other H80iv2 that I'm running elsewhere, but yeah the "compatible" AM4 bracket (no change from AM3) sort of worries me (mines the H110i GT). Especially after reading this
@luis_jesus ah ok, just finding some of these posts now. Does make me worry a little less.
@MograineLefay hehe, thought someone might pick on that. Work machine, apart from video card boss doesn't care what parts I ask for (within reason). Could have been worse, would have been a 750 but I said it wouldn't run three screens above 1080 (no idea what its max is for 750, just wanted an excuse haha)
So I'm going to try the air cooler, and maybe try and couple of washers on the H110i to reduce the supposed 1mm slack, and probably not worry too much at the same time :)
Specifically, the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X and 1800X carry a +20°C offset between the tCTL° (reported) temperature and the actual Tj° temperature. In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700. Long term, we expect temperature monitoring software to better understand our tCTL offsets to report the junction temperature automatically.
My 1800x is at 4 Ghz at 1.35v. It did idle high, like 50ish so I put it in my ghetto case with a 200mm hole cut in the side for a large fan. It now sits around 40 degrees, and the large fan size is near silent. I think the temps are definitely out of wack. I'll OC mine properly tomorrow (I only got it today) and see how high the temps will climb. Bizarrely all monitoring software reports my CPU as a 7 core with 15 threads.... Do you get the same problem? I bench around 20000 on Firestrike so I know all the cores are actually working.
Any particular reason they added 20 to the X's? Why would that be useful to do from the factory?
Something to do with the low temp reading from AMD stuff historically being bad and the highs being decent? So bump them by default and call it a day forcing them to read better at all times? But then why not on the 1700 too.
@Tastyrabbit well that sort of mirrors my temps a little bit. Downloading firestrike now.
Not going to try the Phanteks PH-TC12DX AM4 Edition for the moment, the only change in the package is the mounting bracket holes spacing, no height difference. Probably still worth a test but I'll just wait for news/bios/more testing.
Given that this only affects the 95W TDP chips. I'm a bit apprehensive about AMD's statement being the whole truth. Until someone delids a Ryzen chip and measures direct temps with an external sensor I'm staying cautious about this.
It's with RAM at 2933 (CL 16) and my 1800x at 4 Ghz 1.35. I'm way too lazy to overclock it further because restarting the PC is such a massive pain.
I think I could get 4100 at 1.4ish with relative ease. It posts at 4050 1.35v but not bench stable (24/7). To be honest, I can't tell the difference with the extra 100mhz anyway and I don't think it worth the extra heat at 1.4.
