New productivity setup for hosting VM's and learning computer forencis

Hello there fellow techies!

Here is the case, my computer is currently not behaving and I need to replace it.

What I need!

My needs are for me to host VM's and the likes of that. learning about OS and how they work and what needs to be done for seting them up right and stuff like that. (curently taking a degree in computer forencis over them interwebs) and therefor need an nice setup.

And btw I do not need a GPU I have a 970 and it will do just fine for the few games I accually play so I have no need for a new one!

My budget is about 1400 USD

Do you mean Forensics? how demanding will the workloads on the VM's be, and how much will you be doing simultaneously?

Sans GPU, $1400 is more than enough to fit your needs, I'd say a mainstream i7, a z1/270 MoBo, 16gb of ram, your choice of storage, and a decent Seasonic power supply would be hard pressed to cost you more than $700. If you need a case and peripherals, 800, but you mention that you have a nonfunctional system already, so I doubt that's an issue

jeah Forensics :P

Well not quiet sure how hard the work load is going to be, as I am a first year we are still learning the basics. But I guess some servers running while we try to breaking into our on systems running. And then we are going to have a course on databases and coding, and I like to do some game dev as side projects and maybe some streaming with OBS.

Not sure how the 970 does on streaming via NVENC, but if it isn't adequate, then I'd imagine getting a capture card (blackmagic design makes decent ones) would be far cheaper than moving up to x99. I run a quad core gaming VM and do machine learning work simultaneously on my last gen i7 system, which is a relatively heavy workload compared to what you'll most likely be doing, and I've got no complaints. My total system cost, peripherals and GPU included, was less than $1400. You'd obviously want VT-x/d, but Is overclocking a make-or-break feature for you?

overclocking is not deal breaker for me :) Reason for 1400 USD budget is that is has to last my entire student period.

In that chase, A reliable PSU and maybe getting a UPS are more important than any single other component. Go with Seasonic for the PSU, and Cyberpower Systems for the UPS. I can give you an example parts list if you like,

Yeah that would be great :) I dont live in the US tough so we dont have the brand Seasonic :P

Where do you live? chances are there are rebrands in your area

Well, if your program is anything like the security degree course I got from ECPI, I would expect that the college/university offering the program would provide VM's from a distance for you to use. (ECPI had servers running VM's for a variety of different hardware that we had to use in labs. Servers, routers, switches, etc.)

That being said, I managed fine with a GTX 970, a Seasonic 750w 80+ gold), an I5 on the Z97 platform, with a single 128gb SSD and a single 1tb HDD.

However, if you really want to get something. I would just upgrade your current rig a bit, get two monitors at least, if you don't currently have at least two, and then maybe look around and see if you can get a used server that you can buy, set it up, and then try and break into it?

Multi-monitor is really a boon for classes like this. I found it infinitely useful during my time at ECPI.

OH. Good pair of around the ear headphones (or noise canceling if need be) so you can concentrate. You may or may not need this depending on your living situation. I wish I'd had my Audio Technica MX50's when I was in school. Music really helps me think/focus.

I live in norway :)

can you give me an index of the brands/models available to you? what online retailers are popular there?

Well I have an old server, 1u and it is kinda loud and I live in a basement apartment, so I dont really have a lot of room to play with. I have running ESXI and hosts a couple of windows servers and some things like that. But its super loud and a bt power hungry

Komplett.no
Netonnet.no
MPX.no

Those are the most used

Would it cost you significantly more to import from the UK or an EU country? I know you can get most if not all the PSUs there that you can here

Also, I'm not up on my norwegian, but it seems like they are pretty available:
https://www.mpx.no/search?q=Seasonic

UK has left/leaving the EU so dont know if that is even a solution any more, and jeah the custom taxes in norway are stupid high.

My bad :P I didnt seem them on the list at komplett but they are there :P so no worries then :D

no worries mate. Here's a great start, reliable, Full support for VT-whatever and throw whatever storage you will last as long as you like. Throw in whatever storage you want/need, then use the rest on a Cyberpower Systems UPS, monitors, and whatever RGB LED gaming swag tickles your fancy (kidding of course)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TThsvV

If you need a Tonne of network connectivity or to host many simultaneous VM's, then moving up to server hardware is nota bad idea, but for the needs you describe this should work fine