New PC build (8350 or i5 4670k)?

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Overall, for this PC and Windows included (in both pcpartpicker links I have it as a custom item since I'm going to be getting the student price from Microsoft) I am willing to pay about 1280ish. I require nothing but the PC and 70$ to the side for Windows.

Now, this PC will mostly be used for gaming, but I also do tend to use Photoshop, Sublime Text for coding as well as (NOT VERY OFTEN) C4D rendering if I need something for Photoshop work that needs to be 3D. 

Also - I'm looking into starting up a YouTube channel - But I want this to be a very unimportant factor within your decisions.

I really just want a computer that will last me, as I don't plan to upgrade for a few years..

Here are the 2 configurations I've come up with. They're both the same exact thing except for the motherboard and CPU. I am open to suggestions, post your link below. However, if you're going to make suggestions, please have some valid information to back things up. I'm not a fanboy of either AMD nor Intel, so I'm fine with choosing either, as long as there is a valid reason - I hope any advice you give will follow the same pattern of thinking. 

Thanks to anyone who decides to help!

(NOTE: I've tried to keep the black and red theme reoccurring - if you can keep that - AWESOME! If not, try to use a neutral color like just black.) 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3xQcX

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3xTK0

EDIT: Due to replies and some more research and benchmarks viewed, I have decided to go with the 4670k. Now, any suggestions/changes/advice? Post your links below! 

Thanks once again to anyone who posts/helped/helps me.

 

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I'd suggest the Intel build, but replace with CPU with a Xeon E3-1230 v3 and drop down to a slightly lower end motherboard. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31230v3

The xeon is basically an i7-4770 without the integrated graphics and is only $250. Unless I'm much mistaken, this will help quite a bit with photoshop. Unfortunately, it has a locked multiplier, so you won't really be doing any overclocking. That does help in keeping down costs since you don't need a Z87 motherboard.

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According the the information I've heard, not all motherboards support the E3-1230 V3.

Perhaps I should have mentioned this - but I don't sell any of the graphical work I do - therefore I don't believe I should spend more money on something that I'm not getting any money out of. Also, I'll be overclocking the 4670k if I do end up going with that build. Apparently, that can be pushed to about 4.2ghz at a stable voltage and temperature. If I see the Xeon on sale, I may go for it - but as of now, it's just not worth the increase of my budget.

Any opinions on the AMD? 

Also - the main task performed on this computer will be gaming.

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Then in that case, I'd just go with the Intel build. It'll give you better performance than the AMD in gaming, but it shouldn't be at much of a disadvantage, if any, in photoshop. Although I'm far from the best to comment on how they'll compare in that - personally, I have very little to do with it.

I'd search for a second opinion on how they compare for photoshop, but the i5 would be better for gaming.

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Thanks for your opinion. Now, one last thing. I've heard that with more cores becoming supported in games such as Battlefield 4 (since the consoles are running 8 cores) the 8350 performs better. On the contrary, I've also heard that the 4670k performs better in OTHER games due to the fact that it has a much greater single core performance. What is the deciding factor here? And which of these takes the lead with their advantage, the core utilization or the stronger single core performance?

Once again, thanks for your opinion.

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My too cents would be that I rather the 8350 over the 4670k because it has more cores. Games are going for more cores over faster cores so I believe the 8350 will be the winner going forward. 

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I do agree that the consoles have 8 core CPUs will help games in the future be optimized for 8 cores. However, I find it highly unlikely that an i5 will suddenly become insufficient. As for Battlefield 4 specifically, I run it with an overclocked i5 3570k and HD 7950, and I get 70-90 fps with minimums in the low 60s. I have a 1080p monitor, and I have all settings on ultra except for 2x AA. The 8350 might perform better in the games optimized for that many cores, but it will struggle a bit in games that are not. The i5 should still give acceptable performance in games optimized for more than 4 cores.

One thing that can be said in favor of Intel is the newer chipset with more features than the AMD boards. However, in terms of purely CPU power, there will be situations where one is at a disadvantage to the other, but both should give acceptable framerates - unless you're shooting for 120 fps with extremely high settings and a huge resolution.

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As of now, I will be running this on a 75ish hz monitor. Therefore, the performance the i5 provides will be just fine. According to what else I've heard, the i5 outperforms the 8350 in many tasks excluding gaming (besides streaming, where those extra cores help). The i5 does render faster, etc etc. I think I will go with the Intel build. 

I'll wait for other opinions on my build - but thanks a lot for your help. SOOOOO - whether or not I edit the OP - does anyone have any changes/advice for the Intel build?

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Personally, I'm not a huge fan of MSI products. It's probably just my own personal bias though. At any rate, I'd go with a Sapphire Tri-X for the R9 290 and I'd rather go with an AsRock Z87 Extreme4. 

Actually, now I think about it, it's almost certainly my own bias - I have a Sapphire Dual-X graphics card and an AsRock Z77 Extreme 3. I have been very happy with both products though. I still think I'd rather go with the Sapphire graphics card though, at least from what I've heard the Tri-X is better than the Twin Frozr when it comes to cooling.

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Thanks for all your input. I'll look into the temperatures of a bunch of R9 290's. As for the motherboard, I'm quite happy with my choice, especially due to the color scheme. I dislike AsRock due to a presumption I've made that AsRock products usually don't last very long, as many people I know who have purchased an AsRock motherboard have had failures within 6 months. The ones that haven't are still working, but it still something I keep in mind. However, I'll take a look at it. Thanks, once again.

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I was going to say if you wanted to wait a week i could post benchmarks as i just bought an AMD system setup. But good luck with your build. I am not a fanboy either I am all about what value they offer.

Post pics of your build up when you are finished.

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I wouldn't buy based on speculation about which will be better in future games. You aren't likely to see much change in how these two compare in the future so choose based off your needs now.